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Old 08-18-2016, 06:34 PM   #12391 (permalink)
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But not in England ... or at least not until 1997.

OK I absolutely know Hitchin' a Ride is mainstream cause when I played in plug.dj Paul Smeenus said he did not like it cause it was mainstream. But there are other reasons too. I picked Hitchin' a Ride because it shares some things in common that other songs had. It sounds Beatle-esque in my opinion. It has Ringo-esque drum beat. The piano take the place of the way Harrison plays his guitar chords. It has a recorder. Flutes and other woodwind instruments have been slowing gaining acceptance in Popular music, as well as in underground music at the time. It has a Peter Gun-esque break. It also has cow bell or the bell of the cymbal. It has decent harmonies. A tone-wheel organ makes a brief appearance. It's a fun song up-beat song. OK all those things are use sparingly in the song, they are used for hooks. Everything is nice and neat. It basically comes down to being a pop song.

OK both songs came out about the same time. Hitchin a Ride reached #16 while the Immigrant Song was nowhere to be found on the UK charts - or at least from the sources I've checked. Someone please go through the UK charts and fact-check that for me.

While Hitchin' a Ride is very similar to other songs at the time the Immigrant Song is sui generis. I am not saying its uniqueness automatically makes it underground. I saying it not really mainstream because it's not similar to other mainstream song at the time.

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A song isn't mainstream because someone said it is. And you guys areally discussing if Led Zeppelin wasn't mainstream? Did they top the charts with one or more songs during their initial years active. Check that and you'll have the answer.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:10 PM   #12392 (permalink)
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A song isn't mainstream because someone said it is. And you guys areally discussing if Led Zeppelin wasn't mainstream? Did they top the charts with one or more songs during their initial years active. Check that and you'll have the answer.
In the UK, no.
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In the UK no.
In the USA, no.
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There is your guys answer. They were not mainstream. But that doesn't make them underground!
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:16 PM   #12395 (permalink)
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A song isn't mainstream because someone said it is. And you guys areally discussing if Led Zeppelin wasn't mainstream? Did they top the charts with one or more songs during their initial years active. Check that and you'll have the answer.
Yeah, you said "top the charts," which usually means having a number one hit. I was curious of Chula response, but how you phrased that, he's right.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:19 PM   #12396 (permalink)
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Yeah, you said "top the charts," which usually means having a number one hit. I was curious of Chula response, but how you phrased that, he's right.
Someone help me out. Maybe I'm wrong about this. But I thought when people say top of the charts they mean that the band had a top 40 hit.
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Someone help me out. Maybe I'm wrong about this. But I thought when people say top of the charts they mean that the band had a top 40 hit.
That is my understanding of it, yes.
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Someone help me out. Maybe I'm wrong about this. But I thought when people say top of the charts they mean that the band had a top 40 hit.
I thought when someone said a Top 40 Hit they mean a band's song reach somewhere in Top 40. "Top of the Charts" is usually a #1 hit, begin that #1 is the top number. The "top" of something generally means nothing else above it. There is nothing above, or higher the number one slot on the charts. A "Major hit" would be would be the upper half of Top 40, and a "minor hit" would be further down the charts.
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Whole Lotta Love did hit #4. Other than that Zep didn't do well with singles. Plus WLL is after the period I'm referring to when I talk about Zep being underground.

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Wasn't Zeppelin relatively ignored in Britain anyway? At least until they made it in America? Comparing chart numbers for the two countries might not make sense.
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