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05-24-2008, 01:51 PM | #1171 (permalink) |
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Uh, it doesn't matter if they knew, the results are what counts. I'm not saying it was a bad idea, just the end result wasn't up to snuff. It's not bad, never said it was, in fact I think it gets an unfair amount of flak, it's just as good as their other work.
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05-24-2008, 01:52 PM | #1172 (permalink) | ||
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I do like Highway 61 Revisited and Blood on the Tracks alright, but I think they are incredibly overrated. And Blonde and Blonde just bored me to death. Quote:
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05-24-2008, 01:54 PM | #1173 (permalink) |
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The Beatles are only overrated in the sense of being musical "innovators". In terms of being great melodists, they get all the praise they deserve and anybody who denies that is an idiot.
But it is true that they are overrated in terms of discussions about innovation and significance to the development of rock music. The Beatles were only influential in the sense of inspiring others to start playing, writing and recording. Far as the music itself goes, they invented very little and merely adapted the emerging popular and underground styles of the time, whatever year it might have been. Even then, their sound by all accounts was quite retro, with the focus being on melody and harmony while the rest of the rock movement had shifted away from that and were trying to break into completely unchartered territory. Fair enough, "melody and pop" was the Beatles' musical vision, and they were the best of the best at those things. But then, people shouldn't try to construe them as the great musical innovators that they never actually were. The real sonic revolution was happening rather elsewhere. |
05-24-2008, 02:01 PM | #1174 (permalink) |
Dr. Prunk
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So according to you, The Beatles stopped making music after 1965, apparrently.
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05-24-2008, 02:14 PM | #1175 (permalink) | |
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Case in point: The White Album; I love it to pieces but it's the most intentionally and fiendishly derivative album of the rock era! Nah, Paul and John never claimed to be great musical pioneers but were always explicit about their influences. They were, however, great pop songwriters, the absolute best in my honest opinion. |
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05-24-2008, 02:16 PM | #1176 (permalink) | |||
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Just because you're a soulless doesn't mean the rest of us are, or that we can't cite it in regard to why we like music. I wish you realize that anyone that committed to Prog has committed themselves to an a-emotional lifestyle. Musically, its like you were subjected to watching you pets executed every couple of years or so as a child. I'd love to know what you love most on this planet.
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05-24-2008, 02:24 PM | #1177 (permalink) |
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Yeah, I don't really get the hate for that song either. The only part that makes me cringe is the last line; "You should be made to wear earphones" is downright lame, particularly following all those great put-downs.
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05-24-2008, 02:25 PM | #1178 (permalink) | |||
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"You have many contacts Among the lumberjacks To get you facts When somebody attacks your imagination But nobody has any respect Anyway they already expect you To just give a check To tax-deductible charity organizations You've been with the professors And they've all liked your looks With great lawyers you have Discussed lepers and crooks You've been through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books You're very well read It's well known" Quote:
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05-24-2008, 02:26 PM | #1179 (permalink) |
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What is this "greatness" you speak of? Sophistication? Variety? You can't deny their influence, their innovations, or the technical aspects of their music, but you can argue what you get out of it. Their melodies don't do anything for me (and I know I'm in the minority by saying that).
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