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Old 09-03-2015, 12:01 AM   #10841 (permalink)
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Not sure I understand the connection between reggae and stoners.
When stoners listen to music, it is an assumption that they listen to music by people who get stoned and make music, in which Reggae fits that criteria. Well that might be true of the 70s but its the twenty first century people, let's get with the times, Stoners listens to Stoner Rock!
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:25 AM   #10842 (permalink)
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When stoners listen to music, it is an assumption that they listen to music by people who get stoned and make music, in which Reggae fits that criteria. Well that might be true of the 70s but its the twenty first century people, let's get with the times, Stoners listens to Stoner Rock!
I've officially lost track of what stoners listen to. Psychedelic, gangster rap, stoner metal, stoner rock, and now reggae it seems.

I think gangster rap is by far the leading candidate for which sub genre has the most stoners.
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:35 AM   #10843 (permalink)
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Not sure I understand the connection between reggae and stoners.
Reggae culture and stoner culture are fairly intertwined. I can't count how many times I've met stoners that thought Bob Marley was the best thing ever.
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:57 AM   #10844 (permalink)
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2Pac & Biggie are over rated.
Not overly controversial. They're only remembered because they died so early in their career, like Kurt Cobain. Good rappers, but not enough to warrant the fan worship that still exists today.

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ICP is not completely talentless.
Can't agree here. I've tried to listen to their stuff, but I end up backing out less than a minute into any of their tracks.

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Slipknot's new album is their best album.
Only controversial to the super fans that think their self-titled debut and/or Iowa are their best releases. Most fans consider The Gray Chapter to be at least up to par with those two albums. Most won't even scoff if you say it's your favorite.

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Kanye West is a genius.
Extremely debatable. The guy receives a lot of hate from people who assume he's another "bitches and hos" type of rapper, and he does rise above a lot of that crap in mainstream hip hop.

But a genius? I'll have to pass. He's too egotistical and while a great rapper, he over hypes himself beyond any reasonable measure, especially when he's proclaiming himself the new "rockstar" and putting out dreck like Yeezus.

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Rap has evolved.
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Micheal Jackson is over rated.
Eh, somewhat. He still remains in my mind one of the most consistent pop stars to perform in the past half century.

Although I would agree that since his death, he has become overrated in the sense that people sort of view him as a pop God. It was amazing to watch the public's perception of him as a monstrous pedophile instantly change the moment he died. Now even suggesting that he molested children gets met with fan rage about how he was framed and that it's insensitive to "tarnish" his image like that. Shows how easily led people are.

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Every genre has at least a handful of good songs. Except for Death Industrial. Okay, even they have their place.
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Over labeling hinders creativity.
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Rap is the most diverse genre out there.
I find it to be the opposite. I'm not much of a hip hop fan in general, but the genre has become incredibly stale, at least from what I've been hearing in the mainstream.
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:29 AM   #10845 (permalink)
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I said the same thing when Micheal Jackson died.


Anything you hear on the radio is very repetitive.

I think rap is the most diverse because all you have to do is rap. The delivery and instrumental surrounding the vocals can come from anywhere. You have rap songs with a reggae influence or an orchestral influence or an industrial influence or a country influence or a metal influence etc. where it borders between rap and what ever else. There just aren't enough rappers out there in the mainstream that choose to push genre boundaries.

Also, I'll redact my statement on Kanye being a genius and just say that he's very creative. I liked Yeezus a lot, my only problem was that he tried to convey certain messages on certain songs but couldn't even stay on topic. Like on New Slaves how he had so many concepts in that song such as him becoming a slave to materialism or how artists are slaves to corporations or that prisoners are becoming almost literal slaves to privatized companies but he trails off into some immature rambling about banging some dudes Hampton wife. I really liked that album though because of how it sort of puts an odd perspective on things. I see it with Big Sean's song Blessings too, with that song and video. These rappers are bragging about having all this money and all these women but they are using this dark sound and dark imagery that makes it seem as though they aren't as happy as they thought these things would make them. Like, in the video for Blessings there is the stair way to heaven but heaven is depicted as this dark and ominous cloud.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:48 AM   #10846 (permalink)
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Rap is the most diverse genre out there.
I love me some hipitty hop, but please show me three rap songs that are as diverse as these (I'm only using metal as an example cause it's my home genre, not cause I think it's the most diverse)...








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Reggae culture and stoner culture are fairly intertwined. I can't count how many times I've met stoners that thought Bob Marley was the best thing ever.
Okay, so that's stoner culture, but what kind of contact do you have with reggae culture? How many Jamaicans do you actually know?
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Old 09-03-2015, 07:37 AM   #10847 (permalink)
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Hell for me would be trapped in a building listening to Bruce Springsteen's Greatest Hits play over and over again. Better yet during Christmas, listening to his Christmas songs. (Yes he made a Christmas album)

Oh wait, that's my place of work.

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Old 09-03-2015, 11:50 AM   #10848 (permalink)
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F*ck Bruce springsteen. he's as bland as they come i don't understand how he got famous in the first place. He's got the raspy working man's voice of a storage house employee and the look too. i think he's famous for being one of the most average musicians ever.
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:52 PM   #10849 (permalink)
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F*ck Bruce springsteen. he's as bland as they come i don't understand how he got famous in the first place. He's got the raspy working man's voice of a storage house employee and the look too. i think he's famous for being one of the most average musicians ever.
So funny! Very well put! This is exactly how I feel.

It hurts me to think of all the great talent out there that remains nameless, while ol Bruce takes up valuable space on radio stations for what exactly?

Who are these fans???? Reveal yourselves and explain!!!!!

Heres another:

Proud to be an American by Lee Greenwood

*Cringe*

Way to totally jump onto that unsinkable ship, Lee. You still get no props from me. And I don't even care if you think me un-American.
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:04 PM   #10850 (permalink)
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So funny! Very well put! This is exactly how I feel.

It hurts me to think of all the great talent out there that remains nameless, while ol Bruce takes up valuable space on radio stations for what exactly?

Who are these fans???? Reveal yourselves and explain!!!!!

Heres another:

Proud to be an American by Lee Greenwood

*Cringe*

Way to totally jump onto that unsinkable ship, Lee. You still get no props from me. And I don't even care if you think me un-American.
I'm a Springsteen fan AMA
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