Unpopular Music Opinions

Key · 07-28-2015, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Nothing in progressive music can ever be underrated.

Progressive Rock specifically, yes, it can be underrated.

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Originally Posted by Two Spirit

True. I would even extend this to bands like Marilyn Manson, who's early sound that made him popular was heavily dependent on his keyboardist, Pogo. Once he left the band, none of his replacements could contribute the same way he did. The sad thing is that most casual fans don't even know who he is, so his work goes unnoticed.

Pretty much. It'd be interesting to hear bands like Yes, King Crimson, and any others play or record an album without a keyboard player. I don't want to imagine that it'd sound better, I can only imagine that they'd sound much worse.

Key · 07-28-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

As opposed to what they do offer? I think that they're rather recognized as far as bands like Yes and Rush (even though Geddy's admittedly not that great) go.

I suppose I worded it a bit weird, but you basically know what i'm getting at. I just don't see a lot of discussion in general about someone saying like "oh man, this band is great because this guy is great on the keys". Most of the time it's focused on the vocalist or the guitarist. Granted, I do know a lot of people who worship the ground Rick Wakeman walks on, but I still stick by my opinion.

**Frownland** · 07-28-2015, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I suppose I worded it a bit weird, but you basically know what i'm getting at. I just don't see a lot of discussion in general about someone saying like "oh man, this band is great because this guy is great on the keys". Most of the time it's focused on the vocalist or the guitarist. Granted, I do know a lot of people who worship the ground Rick Wakeman walks on, but I still stick by my opinion.

I think it's more likely that keyboards are underrated in general and receive too much flak because of the association with cheese if that's your angle.

Mondo Bungle · 07-28-2015, 12:40 AM

I am a member of the church of our (Jon) Lord

Key · 07-28-2015, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think it's more likely that keyboards are underrated in general and receive too much flak because of the association with cheese if that's your angle.

That actually makes a lot of sense now that you say that. I've always found people saying they find the use of keyboard to be really cheesy especially in newer progressive rock bands. Never really understood why, but I guess that's why I have the opinion that I do.

Two Spirit · 07-28-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That might suggest that that specific keyboardist isn't really that vital to the music if nobody but the diehards presumably noticed. Were those other albums less popular? Not really a fan of the guy so I haven't followed his discography much.

Around the time Pogo's role in the band became minimized, the albums started selling less, although the general public becoming tired and bored of Manson's shock antics probably had a lot to do with that as well.

But it definitely didn't help that the keyboarding became less and less inportant, resulting in a much softer sound that was in complete contrast with the bands output a decade prior.

However, I would argue that Manson's music has become much more mature and organic sounding in his most recent albums, due to a greater focus on raw guitar and bass rather than keyboards and electronics. So I suppose it's a trade off in the long run.

grindy · 07-28-2015, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Progressive Rock specifically, yes, it can be underrated.

Pretty much. It'd be interesting to hear bands like Yes, King Crimson, and any others play or record an album without a keyboard player. I don't want to imagine that it'd sound better, I can only imagine that they'd sound much worse.

King Crimson haven't really used keyboards since the seventies.

Mondo Bungle · 07-28-2015, 01:09 AM

Did everyone enjoy the pun

Key · 07-28-2015, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

King Crimson haven't really used keyboards since the seventies.

My opinion has nothing to do with time.

Justthefacts · 07-28-2015, 02:36 AM

Old music's not as good as new, more modern produced music.