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IamAlejo · 09-29-2006, 08:59 AM

Do you think the internet has been good or bad for music? And no, you can't seperate it into "it's been good for smaller bands but bad for big bands" cause that's a weak answer and i won't accept it.

Me and my friends were talking about it the other day. I think it's been bad.

The Dave · 09-29-2006, 09:14 AM

I think it's been good overall for the bands. The bands are able to get their music out to a wider audience due to the internet. While it probably has decreased album sales (which I can't say for sure whether it has or has not) I believe that it has helped to increase tour and merch sales. It has also helped them in getting instant feedback from their fans and such. And used to, to get your friend or someone to check out a band you liked you would have to go over to their house or something and have them listen to the album, now you can just be like, "go to myspace and look em up."

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-29-2006, 09:19 AM

I think good, and not just for smaller bands or for the reasons you give.

It`s easier to get tickets for gigs , it`s easier to get hard to find albums from places like Ebay.Places like amazon have a much wider range of music than any record store i`ve been to. Lots of bands websites/myspace have songs posted before they are released so you can hear new stuff.
Plus if you get into a new band that have been around for a while you have a full biography & discography of all their stuff at the touch of a button rather than having to trawl through endless books & magazines to find out.

Since i`ve come online i`ve got into much more music than I ever have done because it`s so easy to find, and from what I gather from reading news stories albums sales are up everywhere to what they were 10 years ago.

Plus you wouldn`t have sites like this one

Sound Devastation · 09-29-2006, 10:04 AM

its increased the quantity of bands and fans.. and made it easier to find alternative music... everything that Urban said. its benefited most fans on a personal level.. and has initially benefited bands and labels.

however its decreased the credibility of music and the health of the music scene. there will be a point where the benifit crosses the line and its TOO easy for **** bands to get popular and TOO easy to get hold of music. people need to buy albums or bands cant continue and labels cant either - theres no other way to go about it. tours do **** for small bands... most have to PAY to tour and PAY to have merch. getting your friends into small bands through gigs and the net does NOTHING for the band if they then dont buy the CD.

i may be slightly biased as an owner of a physical-releases-only record label and a CD and Vinyl lover.. but i think it has had a bad effect overall.

riseagainstrocks · 09-29-2006, 10:08 AM

It's been bad overall.

Look at anything labeled "extreme" music. 99% of it is copycat artist getting more credit for the work that the true innovators made.

The internet HAS helped me get into alot of the bands I listen to now, however, almost every single one is listed in the thanks part of an album's track listing. This was how people used to hear about bands and it's how it still should be done.

Raine · 09-29-2006, 01:45 PM

It's gotit's advantages and disadvantages like evrything else I suppose.

Napster for example was bad for bands. And the fact is people still use the net to get albums of bands they like.

The internet is also a good way for people to promote their band and advertise though. Look at this forum. We've got a section for promotion so yeah it does have it's pros.

Getting tickets to see bands has been made easier though because of the net. Won't deny that. . . . .

riseagainstrocks · 09-29-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine

It's gotit's advantages and disadvantages like evrything else I suppose.

Napster for example was bad for bands. And the fact is people still use the net to get albums of bands they like.

The internet is also a good way for people to promote their band and advertise though. Look at this forum. We've got a section for promotion so yeah it does have it's pros.

Getting tickets to see bands has been made easier though because of the net. Won't deny that. . . . .

Choose a side. Like the thread asks you to.

mosesandtherubberducky · 09-29-2006, 04:41 PM

It's been good in helping people get to listen to more music and find music that is similar to the music they like. I know before I got DSL I listened to only the radio but now I download anything like a mad man <3 (right now i'm getting everything that mike patton has ever done)

swim · 09-29-2006, 05:42 PM

Good. It's led me to bands that I wouldn't have found on my own not because I wouldn't be able to find out who they are just that I wouldn't be able to listen to them and see if they're any good. I don't have the money to check out every band by buying a record. As long as people are putting forth an effort to support the bands they like I don't see it ever becoming a bad thing.

tdoc210 · 09-29-2006, 05:48 PM

well i download a lot, but i always make sure to ahve at least one purchased album from the band, unless i can't find one, like say from Burzum. Its been good, for exposure. I coan't really say for i am not yet in a band that sells albums.

09-29-2006, 08:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
IamAlejo Muck Fusic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,575	Question Do you think the internet has been good or bad for music? And no, you can't seperate it into "it's been good for smaller bands but bad for big bands" cause that's a weak answer and i won't accept it. Me and my friends were talking about it the other day. I think it's been bad. __________________ a man, a plan, a canal, panama

09-29-2006, 09:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think good, and not just for smaller bands or for the reasons you give. It`s easier to get tickets for gigs , it`s easier to get hard to find albums from places like Ebay.Places like amazon have a much wider range of music than any record store i`ve been to. Lots of bands websites/myspace have songs posted before they are released so you can hear new stuff. Plus if you get into a new band that have been around for a while you have a full biography & discography of all their stuff at the touch of a button rather than having to trawl through endless books & magazines to find out. Since i`ve come online i`ve got into much more music than I ever have done because it`s so easy to find, and from what I gather from reading news stories albums sales are up everywhere to what they were 10 years ago. Plus you wouldn`t have sites like this one __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-29-2006, 10:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	its increased the quantity of bands and fans.. and made it easier to find alternative music... everything that Urban said. its benefited most fans on a personal level.. and has initially benefited bands and labels. however its decreased the credibility of music and the health of the music scene. there will be a point where the benifit crosses the line and its TOO easy for ** bands to get popular and TOO easy to get hold of music. people need to buy albums or bands cant continue and labels cant either - theres no other way to go about it. tours do for small bands... most have to PAY to tour and PAY to have merch. getting your friends into small bands through gigs and the net does NOTHING for the band if they then dont buy the CD. i may be slightly biased as an owner of a physical-releases-only record label and a CD and Vinyl lover.. but i think it has had a bad effect overall. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] * visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

09-29-2006, 10:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	It's been bad overall. Look at anything labeled "extreme" music. 99% of it is copycat artist getting more credit for the work that the true innovators made. The internet HAS helped me get into alot of the bands I listen to now, however, almost every single one is listed in the thanks part of an album's track listing. This was how people used to hear about bands and it's how it still should be done. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

09-29-2006, 01:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	It's gotit's advantages and disadvantages like evrything else I suppose. Napster for example was bad for bands. And the fact is people still use the net to get albums of bands they like. The internet is also a good way for people to promote their band and advertise though. Look at this forum. We've got a section for promotion so yeah it does have it's pros. Getting tickets to see bands has been made easier though because of the net. Won't deny that. . . . . __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

09-29-2006, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Dave Me and The Major Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,830	I think it's been good overall for the bands. The bands are able to get their music out to a wider audience due to the internet. While it probably has decreased album sales (which I can't say for sure whether it has or has not) I believe that it has helped to increase tour and merch sales. It has also helped them in getting instant feedback from their fans and such. And used to, to get your friend or someone to check out a band you liked you would have to go over to their house or something and have them listen to the album, now you can just be like, "go to myspace and look em up."

09-29-2006, 04:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,649	It's been good in helping people get to listen to more music and find music that is similar to the music they like. I know before I got DSL I listened to only the radio but now I download anything like a mad man <3 (right now i'm getting everything that mike patton has ever done) __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"

09-29-2006, 05:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Good. It's led me to bands that I wouldn't have found on my own not because I wouldn't be able to find out who they are just that I wouldn't be able to listen to them and see if they're any good. I don't have the money to check out every band by buying a record. As long as people are putting forth an effort to support the bands they like I don't see it ever becoming a bad thing. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

09-29-2006, 05:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	well i download a lot, but i always make sure to ahve at least one purchased album from the band, unless i can't find one, like say from Burzum. Its been good, for exposure. I coan't really say for i am not yet in a band that sells albums. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.