Does any1 use limewire
 

hey every1

do any of you use limewire if you do dont we need to support our fav bands and if we use limewire to download their albums its basicly stealing

I don't, I like to support the bands that I listen to.

i use it for sample listens and hard to find and live track

if I really like it I'll buy it.

yeah i use it
so do a lot of people on this forum
so shut up

Well if I was in a band i`d rather have 50,000 people listening to my music for free and turning up to gigs and buying merchandise, rather than have 5,000 buy it , of which most of the money would go to the record company anyway.

I only buy cds, and sometimes I download a few songs to check it out.

I don't see it as ''robbing'' so I don't totally agree with my choice in vote. I just like to have tthe cd, with the booklet, and stuff. It makes you feel more of a fan, and it sure as hell fills up your closet!

No I don't use limeware. Yes I download music. And don't give that crap that I'm a horrible person for stealing music. Music is meant to be shared. I have full intentions of buying stuff when I get the money right now it's just close to non-existent, The little money I do have I spend on cds.

I don`t really see how it can be considered stealing anyway.

I`ve bought about 30 albums this year so far & downloaded around 200. Of the 200 i`ve downloaded it`s because I want to hear what they`re like.There`s no way I would have bought them anyway.If I was never going to give those bands money in the first place then they`re not losing out by me hearing their stuff for free.

Also i`ve been listening to a lot of stuff by Hawkwind & The Fall. Both those bands are in the middle of having their albums re-released with remastering & bonus tracks of which i`m buying as they are released.

Why would I go out and buy their stuff now that hasn`t been re-mastered yet when I know in a year or so i`ll have to buy the same album again to get what I wanted in the first place? Why wait all that time to hear an album I really want when I can get the standard albums for nothing now and pay for the special editions later?

It depends on what it is. You can't tell me that you haven't bought a cd, only knowing one song on it, only to discover when you get it home, that the one song you like is the ONLY song on it you like. So, I might preview a cd by downloading some of it. If I really enjoy it, or I'm a big fan of the band and have liked all their previous stuff..then yea, I'll buy it no questions asked. But as far as just single songs..it's a rip-off buying cd singles. Also, I've just run into too many instances where the sites that charge for the songs just don't have what I'm looking for, or the versions I'm looking for either. I agree with the whole "i'd rather have 50,000 people listening for free than 5,000 paying" statement. Bands don't start playing music to make money, and if they do..they don't deserve our support. Bands play music, for the love of the music..to share it with people. Most bands would be happy to have thier stuff available to their fans for next to nothing. Other than your major label bands who've gone "Corporate" and grown obsessed with themselves and making money..the only ones who really care that you "buy" the music are the labels themselves.

so very true. you might not make any money, but its free exposure to anyone in the world, you can't beat that.

am i the only one who still buys cd's?

doubt it. i still buy cd's, if i like it.

I don't even buy CDs if I like them anymore, I hate ordering CDs and can never find any I really want. I seriously don't care what people think of me for it anymore either.

I can't go into cd stores anymore. They make me angry because even the good stores cary mostly sensationalistic crap that I rather not spend my money on.

f u c k limewire it is s h i t

I used to use Limewire.

Now I just use either Soulseek or BitComet.

Limewire made my computer run chubby.

I use it because I can get my songs easily. My mom says it's illegal but who the Fuck cares

you should listen to your mommy, HIM

I still occaisonally buy CD's but I'll agree with that and can understand all that wholeheartedly, CD's get easily scratched/lsot/ripped off, MP3s aren't perfect, either (glitches, cut-offf songs, etc.) but they sure are more easily replaced.

I buy anything I like enough to download. And the only cd's of mine that have even a fingerprint on them, are the ones someone else has touched. I've got cd's up to 3 years old with absolutely no marks on em'. My friend and I were saying, it wont surprise us when people start downloading the actual album artwork to make it look more authentic.

Do all of you have a job?

Yes, I want to rob from my favourite artist.

ummm yeah, but.. so?

Users most likely to download: Highschool dropout stoner kids.
Users most likely to support music: Straight edge music fans.

If I like an artist I use it to check out their other stuff and then if it's good I usually buy it.

but the internet and downloading is the greatest thing to happen to music in a long time! it gives bands, that maybe wouldn't have hade a chance to get a record contract, a listen to by music listeners. i.e. Artic monkeys & arcade fire. its a ctualy a fact that record sales in england has actualy gone up! so downloading cant be that bad!

actually most of the torrents come with album art now heh heh. and being straight edge has no bearing on whether you download music or not, it just makes you a weiner. :laughing:

Actually no. Potheads lack the energy or intrest in doing anything other than sitting and staring at a screen for hours on end. This is one of the many bad effects of Marijuana, because each user will ask; "Why work if I can get money by stealing?", or "Why pay for music when I can get it free?"
The internet may provide exposure to the bands, but it also does this.
Record labels will look at statistics and find what is selling most. They aren't instrested in the music mostly, they're intrested in profit. So they find that users between the ages of 16-35 download music. What you have left is kids ages 6-10 who are into poppy Disney songs. So the label will go and sign up a few dozen knockoffs of Jessica Simpson and the Backstreet Boys, and wait on little kids and preppy schoolgirls to buy them. Meanwhile good artists are off playing friend's houses, or local clubs since they can't get signed. Bands now that don't sell as much as expected, get booted from the label. Think I'm making this up out of my ass? Do some research. Perry Farrell of Jane's Addiction was talking about the exact same thing not that long ago.
And to quote him..."Well these 6-10 year old girls are buying Brat dolls, they will buy our little girl group albums too." Unless an artist can generate revenue for his label, the label will lose intrest. You can post as many arrogant replies as you wish, but this is the plain truth of the matter.
Support what you enjoy.

mine is being burend and disappointed tiem after time by various bands and different genres I'm not astoner, nor pothead I'm jsut not very social at the same time none of thsoe gernalizations were very good, or accurate.

Sad to see music reduced to all his assumptions and gernalising.. ahhh back in the day, when music WAS actaully worth buying, and I did, quite actively.. I so miss those days.

Those weren't just my assumptions. I can cite plenty of artists who have done interviews and said exactly what I did. And yes sainthood, unfortuneatly most people could care less about supporting the music, as long as they get what they want for free.

I am supporting music

I`m listening to it

I've gotten more popularity (even if its still a small amount >.>) uploading my stuff for people online then playing shows and selling the actual albums.

And you aren't using the income for a living, and I doubt you'd fire yourself if you didn't make a profit. I'm not saying the net doesn't give more exposure, I'm saying it doesn't give the labels a profit and that is potentially harmful to the band.

Tell that to the Arctic Monkeys or Gnarls Barkley.
The trend is to download for free, see if you like it, then buy the cd.

BZZZZZZZ Wrong answer

You do know the average band takes 2% - 5% of the money from album sales.

The Rolling Stones last tour took made approx $360 million in revenue.

Would you like to work out how many albums it would take them to sell to make up that kind of money?.

I`ll give you a clue , it`s around 50 million.

Or like 99% of people, download for free, see if you like it, keep the mp3's and not buy the cd. Not every band is going to care if you download once they get popular, I've even heard Disturbed say at a live show, to get the cd and they didn't care if you bought/stole/downloaded it.

And urban, if you had read more carefully I said album sales were to keep the attention of the record label.

Ok, here's my 2 cents.

If you've never heard a band and are curious about them....download it just to see if you like it. I always download atleast 2-3 songs by the same band just to make sure. But if I like it at all, then I buy the album. But I agree with some of you. Buying an album for 1 song isnt worth it. But you have to understand that even on the "**** tracks"...there's still effort put into them. There may not be that much effort, or you may feel like there could have been more put into it, but there's still some amount of effort. And you have to respect them atleast trying to make it work. The bottom line is....as stated by several others before me, if you like a band, support them. Because if you don't, then the label will most likely drop them because they're not selling enough records and then you'll be forced to get online and bitch and whine and complain about it. Saying "Damn, I really liked that band, it sucks that they're not around anymore." Why would you want to kill something that you love? Why do bands strive for a record deal so much if they could make more money off of just touring and merchandise sales? The more support they get from you, the more support they get from their labels.

Amen.

another thing to add...

Sure, the internet gets you exposure. there's no doubt about that. but how long will a band last without any funds? EVERYTHING costs some amount of money.