Music world cup (drum, metal, single, albums, fan)

judas_priest · 07-10-2006, 04:22 PM

Floyd

tdoc210 · 07-10-2006, 04:31 PM

floyd

Merkaba · 07-10-2006, 10:17 PM

^^Third Eye would beg to differ with that.

Also, fan or not of the band, Lateralus is on the brink of conceptional genius. The fact that Tool was more raw and primative back in the early 90's does not mean they are not just as good on Lateralus. They are just as good, if not better, under a different light.

Wild7Dustr · 07-11-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

^^Third Eye would beg to differ with that.

Also, fan or not of the band, Lateralus is on the brink of conceptional genius. The fact that Tool was more raw and primative back in the early 90's does not mean they are not just as good on Lateralus. They are just as good, if not better, under a different light.

I don't care if other people differ!!!Hell, I already said that PF has their fans and "other people" even on this thread might disagree with me.Everyone has their opinion and I said mine, as in PF ain't that great.Lateralus is a great album too and that's why I bought it.Honestly, no matter who says what, Undertow is the better album as a whole.I'd be able to listen to Undertow all the way thru without thinking "oh, lets skip this track" or "damn, didn't I already hear a similar track to this on the album?", while Lateralus is simply good, but not great (even for the band).I also do believe the possibility of them being better musicians today than they were earlier in their careers.Hell, every musician learns a few new tricks or ways of taking their playing to an even further level after a couple of years and I would obviously know because I myself am a musician that has been playin' and jammin' for many years.I have the experience to play the advanced stuff, whether on drums or guitar, although I'm mainly a drummer nowadays.I'm therefore influenced by Danny Carey because he is a great and unique drummer.Other than the amazing talent of Danny Carey, the long, structured songs that Tool creates and the basic fact that they are a great hard-rock band, Tool is still nowhere in the league of being as advanced of musicians as Opeth are.Opeth takes long songs to another level while making them not only listenable, but also seem more like 3 minute songs than 12 minute epics as they are.Seriously, the way Opeth is able to take their talent and construct a much more melodic, yet more heavier of a song than other metal bands, including Tool, is simply amazing.Time really does fly by when you listen to Opeth because, as I already mentioned, their wonderful 12 minute epics only feel like 3 minutes simply because you just can't get enough.To close this out though, I would still like to say that no matter what Lateralus was simply a poor choice to bring up against Blackwater Park or any album for that matter.If you think that Lateralus was a good choice to put up against Blackwater Park because you think it's a more progressive version of Tool, then you've got somethin' to learn, fella.If you were a musician, as I already said I was, then you might be able to learn to understand.Musicians are supposed to (or should be encouraged/inspired to) know just about every aspect of music.I've come to believe that you simply don't know what a heavy, progressive album is if you were gonna put Tool's Lateralus up as it...lol.No offense, but get real!!!

Merkaba · 07-11-2006, 02:06 AM

I think you'll find the only thing begging to differ was a 13 minute song called Third Eye. How the hell you pulled "people" out of thin air is beyond me.

Also, Pink Floyd, what the hell? Where the hell did that come from?

Also, are you saying Tool's songs don't fly by in 3 minutes like Opeth's do? Because that is purely opinion and I would be the first to disagree.

Also, Lateralus is a fine album overall, and no one ever said this was a competition of the better progressive outfit. We're talking overall here sunshine, and again, I would disagree, and say that Tool should win.

Also, there is not one point on Lateralus where you say I think I've heard this song before. You're doing something wrong if there is.

Also, do us a favour and use a fucking paragraph.

swim · 07-11-2006, 02:47 PM

I think you're confusing soft with acoustic.

swim · 07-11-2006, 06:49 PM

Well now that you put it that way I obviously see that your opinion is superior to mine.

It's mere subjective opinion. You're intitled to your opinion as are we. Shut up and deal.

tdoc210 · 07-13-2006, 01:02 PM

Sabbath

sleepy jack · 07-13-2006, 01:05 PM

Sabbath

DearJenny · 07-13-2006, 03:30 PM

Black Sabbath for sure.

That makes it Sabbath-3, Priest-2.

07-10-2006, 04:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,608	floyd __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-10-2006, 10:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	^^Third Eye would beg to differ with that. Also, fan or not of the band, Lateralus is on the brink of conceptional genius. The fact that Tool was more raw and primative back in the early 90's does not mean they are not just as good on Lateralus. They are just as good, if not better, under a different light. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

07-11-2006, 02:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	I think you'll find the only thing begging to differ was a 13 minute song called Third Eye. How the hell you pulled "people" out of thin air is beyond me. Also, Pink Floyd, what the hell? Where the hell did that come from? Also, are you saying Tool's songs don't fly by in 3 minutes like Opeth's do? Because that is purely opinion and I would be the first to disagree. Also, Lateralus is a fine album overall, and no one ever said this was a competition of the better progressive outfit. We're talking overall here sunshine, and again, I would disagree, and say that Tool should win. Also, there is not one point on Lateralus where you say I think I've heard this song before. You're doing something wrong if there is. Also, do us a favour and use a fucking paragraph. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

07-11-2006, 02:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,145	I think you're confusing soft with acoustic. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

07-11-2006, 06:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,145	Well now that you put it that way I obviously see that your opinion is superior to mine. It's mere subjective opinion. You're intitled to your opinion as are we. Shut up and deal. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

07-10-2006, 04:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
judas_priest Metal Maiden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 619	Floyd

07-13-2006, 01:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,608	Sabbath __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-13-2006, 03:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
DearJenny Raptor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 1,334	Black Sabbath for sure. That makes it Sabbath-3, Priest-2. __________________ So here's to living life miserable. And here's to all the lonely stories that I've told. Maybe drinking wine will validate my sorrow. Every man needs a muse and mine could be the bottle.