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Old 07-11-2006, 04:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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First of all I did not attack you for prefering Lateralus
I know you didn't. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you for liking Opeth either. I'm a fan of both bands.

And like swimintheundertow said, those are just clean electric parts.

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Anyway with your vote the final score is Floyd- Hendrix 5-4
Sorry, Hendrix fans.
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Old 07-11-2006, 06:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:28 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Nowhere in my post did I say that Lateralus is a better album than Blackwater Park. I merely stated that in this competition, Lateralus won. It seems plausible that you haven't even given Lateralus a real listen, because if you did, you would know that there are no acoustic parts on the album, omitting a few reticent acoustic harmonics in "Disposition".

Do Opeth integrate tribal drum beats and unorthodox types of percussion into their music? Where's the tabla in Blackwater Park?Are Opeth a bad band because of this? Not at all. They're just a different band that serves a different purpose, and depending on your personal rendition of 'beauty', either one of these albums could be more beautiful than the other.
I know that you're trying to direct this comment at someone else, but I still have something to say about Lateralus, Tool, Opeth, etc...

Obviously you did say that Lateralus won (duh, we can all see that it won by votes) and that you do prefer Lateralus and hold it so highly.If you wanna judge my opinion by how many times I or anyone else heard Blackwater Park over Lateralus, I'd have to tell you that, honestly, I've actually heard the Lateralus album more than the Blackwater Park album.Blackwater Park is clearly the better one and I don't even have to be a musician, like I have been for many years, to understand this.Blackwater Park is/was a great step for Opeth in their creative process, while Lateralus is only < or = to the album they recorded 5 years earlier, Aenima.Opeth creates greatness in every 1-2 years, while Tool takes nearly 5 years between each album.

I was looking at all of the Tool and Opeth albums I owned and came up with these years between each album being recorded:

Tool:
1. Opiate (1992)...barely an album, but still good.

2. Undertow (1992)...one of Tool's best albums, period!!!

3. Aenima (1996)...took 4 years, but still nearly as good as Undertow.

4. Lateralus (2001)...took 5 more years, doesn't musically reach to the level of the previous 2 albums, but it is still a good album.

5. 10,000 Days (2006)...took 5 more years to create songs = to or worse than Lateralus and not really many actual "songs" at that.A big disappointment making me actually appreciate and become more interested in A.P.C. than ever before.I don't know man, I guess all of these new albums with "10,000" in them are simply steps down for the band.Examples are Disturbed's 10,000 Fists and Tool's 10,000 Days.You may be right, Lateralus is better than this album, but definitely not better than the others, so get over it!!!

Opeth:
1. Orchid (1994)...great dark, melodic album for the band with no filler songs like Tool usually has.

2. Morningrise (1996)...another album in the unique Opeth collection.Once again Opeth is able to come out with great music in a short amount of time and an even better album coming out the next year...

3. My Arms, Your Hearse (1997)...an incredible album that is focused on brutal, dark heaviness, yet still melodic.The definition of aggression and heaviness combined with remarkable beauty.One of my faves of theirs.

4. Still Life (1999)...only 2 years later Opeth puts out yet another incredible album without sacrificing their sound or image.This is also one of my faves which makes it hard to choose whether I like this or M.A.Y.H. more.

5. Blackwater Park (2001)...only another 2 years, not 5 years like Tool seems to do.This is probally my favorite of Opeth's, but now that I think about it I could pick nearly any of their albums as favorites because they are all so damn good.

6. Deliverance (2002)...only one year Opeth puts out another great album which seems like chapter two of Blackwater Park.This album and Blackwater Park could be considered the White Album of their career.With this band being as advanced of musicians that they are though, I could possibly see them coming out with another great "White Album" again...who knows?

7. Damnation (2003)...another good album.This is the one album that I actually don't own, but I have heard this album and think it's also quite good, especially being mainly acoustic.As experienced guitarists/musicians say, if you can play something great with an acoustic, you can do wonders with an electric.I'd like to hear Tool try to make a good acoustic album...lol.

8. Ghost Reveries (2005)...wow, another incredible album, but what else can I expect from this band?I have yet to be disappointed with their talent and creativity.I saw their live tour this year and they put on one of the best ever metal shows.After seeing them live, I actually get even more of a chill in my spine when I hear Opeth's songs (especially the one's I remember being played live).Those intensified chills in my spine are forever there after seeing them play live.They are simply geniuses with creativity in both the dark brutality of metal with the melody to take any song to another level.

I still like Tool and Opeth, but Blackwater Park clearly wins over Lateralus.If you don't believe me then fu(k you, I'm an experienced musician that has played for many years and you're not...lol!!!Adding to that, it is evident that Opeth has went up hill in creativity and greatness, while Tool has clearly gone down hill.Learn a little bit and quit being so jealous, youngster, when you're clearly wrong.Nice talkin', but I've wasted enough time on teaching you about music.The lesson is now officially done...next!!!
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Well now that you put it that way I obviously see that your opinion is superior to mine.

It's mere subjective opinion. You're intitled to your opinion as are we. Shut up and deal.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:54 PM   #45 (permalink)
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you do prefer Lateralus and hold it so highly.
I hold Blackwater Park highly as well. I think it's a great album. Personally, I believe it's Opeth's best work to date.

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Blackwater Park is clearly the better one
In your opinion. In my opinion, Lateralus is clearly the better one. This is absolutely pointless.

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Lateralus is only < or = to the album they recorded 5 years earlier
Lateralus was a huge, huge step up for Tool. They improved in every single way they could have.

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Tool takes nearly 5 years between each album.
They toured until 1998, then had legal problems with the record company for a year or two. After that, they started writing and recording. They're a band that likes to take their time. They don't owe anything to anybody.

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Opiate (1992)...barely an album, but still good.
It's "barely an album" because it's an EP.

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Undertow (1992)
If you're such a big fan of this album, you should know that it was released in 1993.

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3. Aenima (1996)...took 4 years,
After the release of Undertow, they toured for quite a while. They wrote and recorded Ænima in less than a year.

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4. Lateralus (2001)...took 5 more years, doesn't musically reach to the level of the previous 2 albums
Lateralus surpasses both Ænima and Undertow by leaps and bounds, musically.

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not really many actual "songs" at that.
The only tracks on the album that aren't actual 'songs' are Lipan Conjuring and Viginti Tres. There's a solid 70 minutes of music on 10,000 Days.

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Lateralus is better than this album
I never said Lateralus is better than 10,000 Days. With the release of 10,000 Days, Tool, again, progressed musically. In "Rosetta Stoned", Danny is actually drumming in two time signatures simultaneously. That's something that he had never done before, and this is just one aspect of one song.

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I'm an experienced musician that has played for many years and you're not
And how would you know that? You don't even know who I am.

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Opeth has went up hill in creativity and greatness, while Tool has clearly gone down hill.
Both bands seem to get better with every release.

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I've wasted enough time on teaching you about music.
The only thing you've done for me is made me feel incredibly intelligent. Not because I seem to know what I'm talking about a little more than you do, but because of the little things, like my ability to construct a proper sentence.

Now, please shut up so we can get on with this competition. We can see that you prefer Blackwater Park over Lateralus, and we couldn't care less. It's really a bit pathetic that you're getting so upset over a little internet competition on a music board.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:45 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Crowquill did not do the next match in 24 hours, so I will do it.

Black Sabbath- Master of Reality
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Judas Priest- Sad wings of destiny
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Both are great albums, but I'm going to have to go with Master Of Reality.
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Both are great albums, but I'm going to have to go with Master Of Reality.
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Stone Magnet, again you will pick the next two.
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