The Official Best Guitarist Thread

TockTockTock · 11-09-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

All I'm saying is that I could probably play as well as Haino.

Alright, then please record something for us and post it here. Also, feel free to pioneer a completely different approach at playing the guitar.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 11-09-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

My retarded brother

Yeah, incest will do that to you.

As for Phantom, I get what you're saying. To an extent, I get the vibe you kind of are intrigued by his playing style. However, I would argue whether somebody could, or couldn't, it doesn't matter.

Go to an open mic night, or a local blues band. Ask people to play some Chuck Berry. A large portion of them will probably be able to pull off a song perfectly. Chuck Berry was even a technical revolutionary for his time. HOWEVER, a large portion of guitarists with today's aids can probably learn his songs quite quickly, and be equally proficient. None of them are significant.

It doesn't make them Chuck Berry. Anybody can study any song for a length of time, and learn it on an instrument. But, to pioneer an entire new direction takes talent.

Remember, Haino was doing this kind of thing in the late 70s throughout the 80s. Guitar work of the traditional sense was getting stale as ****. Somebody has to atleast admire him for having the balls to actually do something different, not just play 'middle aged old fart' blues, and yell 'all them damn kids don't know nothing' after 20 years of going nowhere with it.

blastingas10 · 11-09-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

You mean they would have to sacrifice most of what they know about conventional music and start almost completely over. You see... not many people are capable of doing that. So, no, not any "good guitarist" could play like him.

Ya i guess we might as well sacrifice the conventional way of walking and start crab walking.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Yeah, incest will do that to you.

As for Phantom, I get what you're saying. To an extent, I get the vibe you kind of are intrigued by his playing style. However, I would argue whether somebody could, or couldn't, it doesn't matter.

Go to an open mic night, or a local blues band. Ask people to play some Chuck Berry. A large portion of them will probably be able to pull off a song perfectly. Chuck Berry was even a technical revolutionary for his time. HOWEVER, a large portion of guitarists with today's aids can probably learn his songs quite quickly, and be equally proficient. None of them are significant.

It doesn't make them Chuck Berry. Anybody can study any song for a length of time, and learn it on an instrument. But, to pioneer an entire new direction takes talent.

Remember, Haino was doing this kind of thing in the late 70s throughout the 80s. Guitar work of the traditional sense was getting stale as ****. Somebody has to atleast admire him for having the balls to actually do something different, not just play 'middle aged old fart' blues, and yell 'all them damn kids don't know nothing' after 20 years of going nowhere with it.

He sucks. There's a reason why nobody plays like that, because it sounds like ****.

TockTockTock · 11-09-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Ya i guess we might as well sacrifice the conventional way of walking and start crab walking.

... Huh?

blastingas10 · 11-09-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

... Huh?

There's a reason why we walk on 2 feet, because its the right and most profecient way to do it. The same reason why we have music theory and conventional ways of playing music. You do not have to completely abandon how to conventionally play your instrument in order to do something innovative and highly creative.

TockTockTock · 11-09-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

There's a reason why we walk on 2 feet, because its the right and most profecient way to do it. The same reason why we have music theory and conventional ways of playing music.

Not really. Walking and making music are two completely different things.

Also... there are pros and cons in both conventional and unconventional music... one is not "better" than another. They just do things differently.

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You do not have to completely abandon how to conventionally play your instrument in order to do something innovative and highly creative.

Nobody is saying that... It's just another way of doing something innovative and highly creative.

blastingas10 · 11-09-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

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Not really. Walking and making music are two completely different things.

Obviously. Clearly you dont get the point.

TockTockTock · 11-09-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Obviously. Clearly you dont get the point.

No, I do. You compared walking, a mode of transportation, with making music, an art form. Your implication was that conventional music is superior to unconventional music, much like walking on two feet is a more superior and effective way of moving about in comparison to crab walking.

Don't like unconventional music? Great, then don't listen to it, but don't pretend like it's an inferior way of composing music.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 11-09-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

He sucks. There's a reason why nobody plays like that, because it sounds like ****.

And you're saying this on what authority?

blastingas10 · 11-09-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

And you're saying this on what authority?

And you're saying he's good on what authority? He sucks, to me. You think he's good, that's fine. Doesn't change the fact that he sucks.