Tom Waits (blues, vinyl, albums, beatles, discography)

Piss Me Off · 05-28-2008, 07:27 AM

That is a damn fine song.

Laughing Boy · 05-29-2008, 05:58 PM

I've been listening to alot of Blood Money lately. I think it's his most underrated album but also one of the best.

TheBig3 · 05-30-2008, 02:54 PM

Well thats actually a pretty interesting position.

What albums would consider his underrated. I can only speak to personal preference on this one but I think albums like Foreign Affair and The Black Rider are far below Blood Money, but I think its also fair to say most fans wouldn't allow it to crack to top 10.

I happen to think that its one of his better albums as well, with my only contention being that some songs are highly abbreviated. (something I'll chaulk up to it being a double release).

Songs like "Another Man's Vine" which is likely my favorite is devoid of the traditional plot and character development that we've seen in other songs (even on the same album) but if Alice had words, Blood Money got the music. Like Maternal twins spliting the personality traits, one always gets the better hand.

And when we say its underrated thats because its highlighting one of the most underrated talents waits has. His musicianship and his ability to conduct other musicians to play what he needs.

I used to have a friend who said Paul Simon could never be as good as Dylan because he focused too much on the sounds of things. He suffered from the same issue I think most Singer/Songwriters fans do, and its an overappreciation for the word. And its a tough thing to say because the words of some of these guys are certainly worthy of the praise but to undersell the musicianship is nothing short of sinful.

And thats exactly Blood Moneys problem. Its actually no problem, its just light on one aspect that too many fans over apprecaite and beautiful in too many ways people find incomplete.

So whats your favorite track on the album?

Laughing Boy · 05-30-2008, 03:46 PM

I should say this now because it's probably going to be a reoccurring issue. I say every Tom Waits is album is underrated except Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs. My favorite song is Misery is the River of the World.

mr. goth glam · 05-30-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

That is a damn fine song.

Ever show that song to someone as their introduction to Waits?

The look on their face is priceless.

~~Civic Depreciator~~ · 05-30-2008, 10:52 PM

I need to get into more of his stuff.

Seltzer · 05-30-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Laughing Boy

I should say this now because it's probably going to be a reoccurring issue. I say every Tom Waits is album is underrated except Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs. My favorite song is Misery is the River of the World.

Well I've always thought Bone Machine was underrated. I find it to be up there with his best, though I doubt I've heard as much of his discography as some of the Waits fans here so I can't really judge.

Piss Me Off · 05-31-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Well I've always thought Bone Machine was underrated. I find it to be up there with his best, though I doubt I've heard as much of his discography as some of the Waits fans here so I can't really judge.

Yep that's definitely top 5, along with Mule Variations i'd say, i don't know how critically acclaimed that is.
I'm still missing quite a few albums, mostly the early bluesy ones.

Laughing Boy · 06-01-2008, 04:57 PM

My top 5 is:
1. Bone Machine
2. Rain Dogs
3. Real Gone
4. Mule Variations
5. Blood Money

sl1ck · 06-01-2008, 05:29 PM

Here is a bad cell phone quality picture of my Tom Waits Vinyl Collection:

Closing Time, The Heart of Saturday Night, Nighthawks at the Diner, Small Change, Foreign Affairs, Blue Valentine, Heartattack and Vine, One From the Heart [with Crystal ***le], and Swordfishtrombones.

I really need to find a coy of Rain Dogs, it seems to be Tom Waits' most popular album.

Edit: G ay is censored? Really? That's pretty ridiculous.

05-28-2008, 07:27 AM	#201 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	That is a damn fine song. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

05-29-2008, 05:58 PM	#202 (permalink)
Laughing Boy Music Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126	I've been listening to alot of Blood Money lately. I think it's his most underrated album but also one of the best. __________________ He said, "Take a hit, hold your breath and I'll dunk your head When you wake up again, you'll be high as hell and born again." Last edited by Laughing Boy; 05-30-2008 at 03:44 PM.

05-30-2008, 02:54 PM	#203 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Well thats actually a pretty interesting position. What albums would consider his underrated. I can only speak to personal preference on this one but I think albums like Foreign Affair and The Black Rider are far below Blood Money, but I think its also fair to say most fans wouldn't allow it to crack to top 10. I happen to think that its one of his better albums as well, with my only contention being that some songs are highly abbreviated. (something I'll chaulk up to it being a double release). Songs like "Another Man's Vine" which is likely my favorite is devoid of the traditional plot and character development that we've seen in other songs (even on the same album) but if Alice had words, Blood Money got the music. Like Maternal twins spliting the personality traits, one always gets the better hand. And when we say its underrated thats because its highlighting one of the most underrated talents waits has. His musicianship and his ability to conduct other musicians to play what he needs. I used to have a friend who said Paul Simon could never be as good as Dylan because he focused too much on the sounds of things. He suffered from the same issue I think most Singer/Songwriters fans do, and its an overappreciation for the word. And its a tough thing to say because the words of some of these guys are certainly worthy of the praise but to undersell the musicianship is nothing short of sinful. And thats exactly Blood Moneys problem. Its actually no problem, its just light on one aspect that too many fans over apprecaite and beautiful in too many ways people find incomplete. So whats your favorite track on the album? __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-30-2008, 03:46 PM	#204 (permalink)
Laughing Boy Music Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126	I should say this now because it's probably going to be a reoccurring issue. I say every Tom Waits is album is underrated except Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs. My favorite song is Misery is the River of the World. __________________ He said, "Take a hit, hold your breath and I'll dunk your head When you wake up again, you'll be high as hell and born again."

06-01-2008, 04:57 PM	#209 (permalink)
Laughing Boy Music Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 126	My top 5 is: 1. Bone Machine 2. Rain Dogs 3. Real Gone 4. Mule Variations 5. Blood Money __________________ He said, "Take a hit, hold your breath and I'll dunk your head When you wake up again, you'll be high as hell and born again."

05-30-2008, 10:52 PM	#206 (permalink)
~~Civic Depreciator~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 200	I need to get into more of his stuff.

06-01-2008, 05:29 PM	#210 (permalink)
sl1ck Wish Fulfillment Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 99	Here is a bad cell phone quality picture of my Tom Waits Vinyl Collection: Closing Time, The Heart of Saturday Night, Nighthawks at the Diner, Small Change, Foreign Affairs, Blue Valentine, Heartattack and Vine, One From the Heart [with Crystal **le], and Swordfishtrombones. I really need to find a coy of Rain Dogs, it seems to be Tom Waits' most popular album. Edit: G ay is censored? Really? That's pretty ridiculous. __________________ Last.FM* RYM