Time Signatures
 

For my theory class we're having a little contest to see who could find really sweet/weird time signatures. So far Pink Floyd's "Money" is winning. I used some Blind Guardian songs that change time sigs, but it's a no-go. Anybody know really sweet songs with time signatures other than 4/4 or 2/4?

Someone should do one with 4/Pi

what about some songs from yes? or the velvet undergrounds death of the black angele , im sure that doesnt have anormal time signature

I actually had found a few from Rick Wakeman solo that I was going to present when I get back from spring break.

Money? 7/4 is winning? Wow.

Slint - Washer
Tool - Flood
Liquid Tension Experiment - When The Water Breaks
King Crimson - Cat Food
Dream Theater - Home

Actually money is in 7/8 as I recall, but im not PF fan o I could be wrong. "Times like these" by the foo fighters is in something ****ed like 5/8 I think and I know Megadeath's "Wake up Dead" is in 15/8. Lets see that ****ty jazz time sig compete with 15/8, take double-digits you jazz loving bitch.

Dillenger Escape Plan - 43% Burnt it's 13/8

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face it, they own.

I don't know who the fuck or what the fuck you're talking to/about, but Cat Food is in 19/8.

What do you mean you don't know who im talking to? If you mean the bitch comment, well then I suppose thats my fault for assuming MB had a sense of humor. It was directed toward the person who submitted Money, other than that we should be on the same page mr. sensitive (yes I know he's not actually Mr.Sensitive)

In any case, Tool are still the best, because they manage to be incredibly complex and make it sound simple as well as incredibly powerful and moving, and not just like technical wankery. Schism, a relatively catchy and effective song, for instance, goes from 5/4 to 6/4 to 3/8 to 13/8 to 10/8, back to 6/4, then to 11/8... keeps on switching, throwing in some 12/8, 15/8, 9/8, 5/8, 2/4, and finally ends in 4/4.

And sorry if I came off as defensive or whatever, I just thought you were responding to my post and I was confused as to which song you thought was a "jazz song." I wasn't really thinking of "Money" as a jazz song.

the new Tool album draws heavily from Meshuggah. Alot of 13/4 and 5/4 and 8/5

Too bad Meshuggah make bad music, amirite?

Yeah, but as I showed with Schism, Tool have been experimenting with crazy time for a while now.

And Meshuggah aren't too bad.

nah, we just have different taste. I think they make very interesting and complex music. Fredrick Thorendal is one of the most innovative metal fusion players around

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7/4 actually, when Gilmour solos the song goes into 4/4... This was because Gilmour had a hard time composing a solo for a 7 beat form.

Anyway, prog is rarely in 4/4... And the time sig variety is off the map, Crimson have some of the best time signature variety i have ever heard, all of the songs on Larks Tongue's In Aspic makes extensive use of 10/8, Happy With What You Have To Be Happy With is in 11/8 and Cat Food is in 19/8.

Thela Hun Ginjeet has different members playing in different time sigs at the same time (primarly 7/8 and 4/4) to create an off ballance effect and a "fragile" beat.

There is no 13/4, you have to draw a line somewhere. It is most probably 7/4 and 6/4 or whatever and I hope 8/5 was a typo. I think the winner for the amount of time signature changes is Dream Theater's "Octavarium." I can't even be bothered with sitting there and counting how many there are.

money is in 7/8 i swear.

Nope, I don't know how you're counting, but it doesn't sound right. It's 7/4 for the most part.

I thought it was 7/8 too.

Well, there may be a passage that is in 7/8, i've read several tabs on it, it was 7/4 as i recall, but maybe i am wrong.

But the song has such a complex rhythmic pattern, that is quite easly to get the time signatures confused.

There is no way someone should mix it up with 7/8. It doesn't even make sense, "Money" isn't the least bit complex...It's 7/4 (most), end of story, you don't know what 7/8 is if you think otherwise. Maybe that's a bit harsh 'cause I guess it's how you count it, but show me how to count "Money" as 7/8 and I'll laugh at you.

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lol, and I started it!

Look at my computer help thread's first page. I really don't know how to count time sigs. I do go to stay in 4/4 but if someone wouldn't mind please explain to me (in extremely simple terms) how to tell and read a time signature.

tap your foot and listen to the stressed notes and count

it's what i pick up from my theory friends. It does sound insane. but i mean, anything is possible

in theory as long as the bottom number is a power of 2 it's possible. in theory of course most of it isnt even usefull

yay 13/4 was on there!! And I must have misheard my friends on the other ones.

Time Signatures are pretty easy, the top number is the number of beats per measure.

the bottom number is what type of note constitutes one beat in that song...

There for 3/4 will have three beats per measure with a quarter note representing one of those three beats.

Of course you can rearrange it with the math so 6 8th notes is appropriate in 3/4 time.

I couldn't be bothered checking them all, but wikipedia said "Quiet" by The Smashing Pumpkins is partially in 13/4, but it just goes into 6/4 for a few bars and there's a 2/4 in there too. There's no 13/4, and even if it went into 6/4 then 7/4 that's not how a normal person would count it :P