Pink Floyd's the wall
 

ok i just got around to watching this movie, i have always loved the cd, but never put a story to it while listening to it.

and after watching the movie all i got from it was something about a nazi/kkk army with x's or something.

and i was told many times that if you watch it high it makes sense or something. well i was pretty damn baked and it still doesn't make any sense.

explination of the movie? anybody?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....mentally broken down ex rocker...is imagining his life and all the events in it as wall....(ehich he finnally tears down he beleves he is the elader of a rasict quasi fascist orginization and those are crossed hammers dude

It's the same story as the album. Pink has problems in his childhood and decides to build an imaginary 'wall' in his mind. The 'wall' is meant to isolate him from the cruel world so that he won't have to deal with any more pain. He ends up becoming a rock star, but the idea of the 'wall' backfires and he sends himself spiralling into depression and eventual insanity.

In The Flesh? - Mother: Childhood problems that lead to the building of the 'wall'.

Goodbye Blue Sky - Goodbye Cruel World: The building of the 'wall'.

Hey You - Bring The Boys Back Home: The depression, isolation, reminiscing, etc.

Comfortably Numb, The Show Must Go On: Pink overdoses and sends himself into a comatose state before a concert. The doctor injects him with something to get him out of it so he can play the show.

In The Flesh - Waiting For The Worms: This is when Pink completely loses it. I read that instead of playing the show as planned, he goes out and acts as if it's a Nazi rally, yelling racial slurs at the crowd, etc. He ends up starting a riot and they go through town beating people and whatnot. Personally, I believe he never did any of that. I believe he was driven to the venue, and instead of going to his dressing room, he walked into the washroom and passed out in a stall and dreamed about the Nazi rally.

Stop: The little good left in Pink helps him realize what he's doing and well...stops. Or, if you believe that he dreamed it all, this is when he wakes up.

The Trial: A 'trial' goes on in Pink's own mind and he decides to tear down the 'wall'.

Outside The Wall: Exactly what the song title says. The aftermath.

The movie is good, as long as you dont mind a whole feature film of pyschedelic acid trips, being based on a Floyd album you should already know that. :)

I love the brillant animated sequences, those were the best parts of the movie.

the movie is amazing, for me its one of me all time favorites ever... the cartoon parts are amazing how every thing changes forum to fit with each mood from scary to sexuality all in one.. its pretty cool. the whole movie is really good... but watching it stoned is completely different then solber. :pimp:

yeah the animation is amazing and i've listened to the cd countless times, it's my fav cd from them. but yeah it does make sense once you break it down.

that movie and tomy by the who have to be 2 of the trippiest movies all time seriously.

I've never understood how people think The Wall is 'trippy'. The music on The Wall isn't trippy, and the movie is more depressing than anything.

Live At Pompeii is something to watch stoned.

I own it and have only watched it twice. I still dont get it.

i dont get how people dont get it

Well it can get pretty damn confusing.

well he does cut ones nipple off

have you watched it while stoned?

You don't need to be stoned to 'get' The Wall. It's a chronological tale of Pink's life, played by Bob Geldof. From infancy, his father dying in WWII, his over protective mother, the cruel schoolmaster were all factors in the building of Pink's wall. In his early adult years, he gains fame as a musician, all the while, disconnecting with the world around him, including his wife. Building his wall.

He further deteriorates by filling the void of love and compassion in his life with drugs and women, until he finally goes over the edge and has a breakdown. The 'powers that be', the ones who see him as a their cash cow, use any means they can to get him up on stage, while Pink, on the inside is crying for help, and is lonely, so lonely he attempts suicide.

He embraces, briefly, his status as icon. It's portrayed in the movie as a Hitler like dictatorship.

In the end, though, he quits, and his life is on trial, with all the people who helped build his wall there.

I could write for an hour about the importance of this album, and the multiple layers of symbolism it contains, the commentary on the social mindset, but all I can say is, if you want to 'get it', you're going to have to watch it more than once.

An interesting note, though, is that at the very end of the album, the very last words spoken are "This is where..."

And the first words spoken in the beginning of the album are "...we came in"

i'm not saying you have to be stoned to undertand the wall. actually i'll never say that, i was just saying that when you stoned watching the wall its just trippy. but being solber can be the same thing, it all depends really what a person finds interesting and keeps them focused in a movie, cause if you don't feel completely comfortable watching this movie and your thinking to much about what you don't understand in the movie and question it to much you'll miss it.. you'll miss the whole point.. all and all its about Pink Floyds father how he was in the war, and the life it left him with, without a father, the life he had.. his feelings towards life, how he wants it to be.. how everything in one part of your life can effect every part of your life and it does in his... and the point goes on and on..

the Album itself is much better then the movie... but that movie is pretty amazing.

And then of course there's the obvious recurring theme of conformity and what not... as for watching it stoned, I'm going to have to agree with Stone Magnet and say there's better stuff to watch.

The pink character is based on both Roger Waters and Syd Barrett...And a lot of the things he does in the movie come from sh*t that either Roger or Syd has done in real life.

The movie is a autobiography in many ways.

it's more the animation, ay least thats what i noticed, i was all like wtf is going on? when i was stoned and sober.


and dark side of the rainbow is trippy, just how it all fits together.

As far as I'm aware, the Movie doesn't have a full explanation. I watched it a while ago, but, after watching it again, it made a lot more sense ^^ especially the part with our flag melting into the cross.

More or less, he has a mental break down. Still even now the animation looks fantastic! Comfortably Numb is *the* best song ever, in my opinion. :-))

You should get it on DVD, theres a special commentary from Roger Waters and director Allan Parker, they help make it pretty clear.

It`s a great cure for insomnia

Dammit, you're always the critical one arent you? :laughing:

I love Pink Floyd , I fucking hate The Wall.

So I hate The Wall
I hate Bob Geldof

So it was never going to work for me really

I have every PF album, The Wall is actualy my second favorite album from them.

It`s kinda weird with Pink Floyd with me.

I seem to hate each album more the later they came out.

Apart from Atom Heart Mother , which I almost threw against the wall (ha) it was so bad

Atom Heart Mother was ok, the title track and Summer 68 were great, the other songs just sound more like musical concrete pieces rather than actual songs.

Other than that i disagree, i think their 70s stuff got a lot better than the post Syd stuff they did in the 60s, like More and Ummagumma...Meddle was the first truely great album they did after Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, and Dark Side Of The Moon was even better...I also rank Wish You Were Here and Animals among their best work...And even though their last 2 albums, Momentary Lapse Of Reason and The Division Bell are nothing great, i would certainly say they were better than The Final Cut, which is their worst in my opinion.

My theory end with the Wall , Quite honestly I can`t find myself to even attempt to listen to any 80s Floyd

Well, Final Cut is pretty lackluster, but Momentary Lapse Of Reason aint that bad.

well who doesn't do that?

i never seen him cut his nipple off in the movie.. i swear or at least i swear what i saw was him shaving the hair off of his face and chest and 'cut' his nipple but never cut it off per-say..he was just shaving his chest and cut it... you know its normal.. :laughing:

So do you like Piper at the gates of dawn....were you more a fan of Syd Barret?

awesome movie, especially when high...

I love both the Barret era and the Gilmour era, but the Gilmour era more, the songwriting was getting better, Gilmour was both a better singer and musician, and Waters is a far superior lyricist IMO.

Though Syds departure was a sad and unfortunate one, it also played a vital role in the bands evolution.

Really?! I have the DVD - I didn't check any of the extra bits!
:stupid:

I think thats fair to say , I`d take Barretts solo stuff over anything Pink Floyd did after Animals any day of the week.

i'm glad that Barrett got knocked out of the band.. if he stayed in Pink Floyd they never would have been so great.. cause well he would only have taken them down..

You`re not really a Pink Floyd fan

i LOVE Pink Floyd, i wouldn't have liked them if Syd stayed with them tho.. I really dislike that dude, and his voice was ****.

I like what Pink Floyd came to be... they were amazing.. AMAZING!

well i think the arnold lang days and that crazy 60's/british sound was pretty sweet too. they're one of the onlt bands that really go from that genre into the art rock, and story telling sort. there are a few others, but you have to listen to what you like, and not listen to a band's certain era just because of what they are.

Pfffft

Drug tinged psychadelia >>>>>>>>>>> dull stadium rock

you like the days of Syd and i like the days of Waters and Gilmour..

everything happens for a reason.. and Syd going unnoticed was for a reason.. cause he was crap...