Oh.

But they still arent as popular as Nirvana.

INXS's most popular album, Kick has sold approximately 10 million albums in America the same as Nevermind in America too. Nirvana were clearly more influencial but both bands are both pretty popular, it would be hard to actually find out which is the more popular.

Simple.

Ask anyone on the street who Kurt Cobain is, then ask them who Michael Hutchence is.

Who's INXS?...If this comes off as stupid, I seriously don't know. =/!

Well known Austrailian pop band, their frontman hanged himself while naked.

That about sums it up.

I'm guessing Rockstar INXS wasn't that big in America.

Not that much, no.

I heard lots of bands that sounded like Nirvana. INXS, not so many.

Shouldn't have been big here either. It was bollocks.

CORRECTION

Everyone sounds like Nirvana

I'm there in the pubs. I know it, I've seen it..
I very rarely hear people any different. Though I respect people that play their own music, I would also like to hear great and different music. Not the same band playing the same music over and over..

That's my opinion:laughing:

So you are saying Dragonforce and Tenacios D sound like Nirvana. Wow, that is one of the stupidest comments I've seen in a while

E...e...very one sounds like Nirvana? So - you are saying - that every band has the voice of Kurt Cobain ... the Drumming of Dave Grohl and the Bass Guitar of Krist Nov'? is this what your implying? well, each to their own, however, I can't disagree more. At that time there we a *few* bands sounding the same, I mean, Pixies for example. Although Nirvana were based around the Pixies and they're the ones that were before Nirvana.

Besides the point - Dragonforce don't sound like Nirvana. I agree with Rubber Ducky.

You're opinion though Dude :-))

EDIT - Have to ask, what Bands do you think sound like Nirvana? I know some which spring to mind, but not so many.

omg you really don't get it, do you? I said in pubs.
Plus wtf? I'm spikey... just accept it...

:usehead:

Sometimes I think you guys are weirder than me :laughing:

I agree the pixies but also note....
They have made it because they are different..
pubs bans don't because they all sound the same..
See my trail of thought?
No?....
Oh welll. :(

big as in "size"? no...
big as in "damn theres alot of them on the road" - probably, im not gonna go hunting around for statistics but i think it would be safe to assume that they sell more.

Sure :-)) I perhaps got the wrong end of the stick, for the *second* time today on here. <--- blames 45 hours without sleep (LAN Party) anyway, Pub Bands ... I see your point. As for the Pixies, yeah, they made it because they were different, why I adore them.

Omg someone who understood me for once..
Mark the date down!!!

What if MTV had never been invented? What do you think music would be like today?

honestly.....better.

I disagree with that. It would be a hell of a lot less accessible, as much as people hate on MTV. Its gotten alot of people into music, and the bands they listen to then are usually what get them into other things. Example, alot of blink/green day/etc.. fans go on to get into other "real" punk bands.

EDIT: As far as I know, MTV wasn't always reality shows and half naked chicks and sugar coated rap...

but without something to promote things like greenday and blink wouldn't they just go straight onto the real punk?
you shouldn't have to be weened on to decent music, that means your forcing yourself to listen to it, listen to what you want, and if mtv isn't around you have no choice but to go for decent music :)

Not really, alot of punk is too raw to get straight into and alot of people go from a poppier version to the real thing. I use to think The Used was too hardcore, and now I listen to Converge.

Who needs MTV

I had John Peel & Steve Lamaque

heh, i see some logic, although i don't recall ever being weened myself:S. i've always just listened to what i thought was alright.

When I was a kid I would buy one 7" single a week. It's all I could afford.
I would play that piece of vinyl constantly and always go back to it.
When I bought an album with the sleeve notes etc, it became a prize possession.
Now all I have to do is download from a P2P and have anything I want.
A vast amount of my music exists on my hard drive (stuff I've got lately and the stuff I've ripped from my existing cd collection).
It's just not the same anymore.

Forget MTV...how has the internet affected music?
Better or worse?

You hit the nail right on the head, right track. I had the exact same thought. I know we're viewed as dinosaurs, and rightly so, considering the demographic here. But 'back then', music was held in a lot higher value, since it was harder to come by.

You hear that one new song for a month on the radio, and counted the days until the album was released. I'm sure it's that way now, as well, except, when the album is released now, a few clicks of a button, and you have it.

Having to save your allowance, or grass cutting money, and riding your bike to the record store, and seeing all those brand new records. That was something special.

The internet, as well as MTV, have made music so accessible, the thrill of anticipation is virtually gone. It's hard for someone like me to say that music has gotten worse, simply because, by the time I hit my mid 20's or so, my musical tastes were changing, and music was evolving in a different direction from the one I was headed.

Do I think it's gotten worse? Yes. But that is only my opinion. I have no hard evidence, only my ear. I will give you folks this to ponder: What bands out there would never have made it without MTV? There are, I'm sure, literally hundreds, who, without the sense of sight, would have never made it to the radio.

As far as the history of MTV, I was around, in my musical prime, when it started. It begain with no commercials at all, just videos, back to back to back. Then, they started playing commercials, only there was no sound during them.

Then, they added Vee-jays. Martha Quinn, J.J. Jackson, Alan Hunter, Mark-somebody, and that ditzy blonde. It evolved, and grew, and artists started showing up on the network as it gained in popularity. It was another medium to promote themselves, and they used it. A prime example of this is Madonna. She is the MTV queen. Would she have remained so popular without MTV? She was a chameleon, changing her look, and that is what kept people interested for so long, because her music didn't change much at all.

I think the first game show on MTV was 'Remote Control', a pop-culture quiz show. Then the specialized, late night programming started. Sunday nights had '120 Minutes', two hours of new wave, progressive type stuff. My oasis, though, was Saturday nights, (or was it Fridays?) The Headbangers Ball. Awesome!!!

The, the day Yo! MTV Raps came on, I turned off MTV and never went back. Seriously.

I'm sixteen, and although I'm not trying to sound pretentious, I try and stay pretty old-school with my music. I buy all of my CD's at stores (or over the Internet, which may seem pretty modern, but I don't think it's too different from ordering records over the phone). Other than bootlegs, which I download a lot of, I download a song only once or twice a month (sometimes not even that). I don't usually play music through my computer, almost always through the stereo system. Frankly, anything modern that makes things too conveniant gives me a bad feeling (iPods, cell phones, etc., although I'll try to keep this limited to music). I love having physical CD's, with factory-produced album covers and liner notes. I don't feel like I really have music until I have it on a hard, legal CD. 99% of the music I buy is between old and way old (as in, parents' parents' parents' music, and when I go classical, even beyond that), so I rarely feel this sense of anticipation that jr. is talking about. Most of it doesn't even get played on the radio. So, when asked whether the Internet has had a positive or negative effect on music, I'd say negative, but remind the person asking that that's a very, very subjective response.

However, that first paragraph only covers the music market. What I believe the by far greatest product of the Internet is, would be that it's like having a reference library in your house. I'm constantly researching on the internet, be it music, books, movies, whatever. Would I know half of what I know about Louis Armstrong, Charlie Christian, Pink Floyd, Public Enemy, whoever, if it weren't for the internet? Probably not. So, when we're talking music as a whole, I'd say that the internet has had a negative effect in some areas (as I said though, that's rather objective), but a positive effect in others.

As for MTV, **** it, by the time my parents would actually let me watch that trash, I knew better. It may have been great at one time, but by the time I was able to look at it with a balanced head, it was a joke. I don't even like music videos, in the first place.

Jr.

To each his own, im a rap enthusiast myself.

I liked MTV up until the point when they stopped actualy having anything to do with music whatsoever, and when they actualy do play music its not worth it, because its garanteed to be shit.

I think downloading music online is great, because it does allow you to find a lot of great music that you cant find anywhere else, and a lot more indie bands have gotten popular in the past 6 years because of the internet, with little or no help from MTV or the radio.

I doubt a album like Kid A would have been so successful without the internet, because MTV and the radio stations wouldnt touch it, in fact, millions of copies of it were downloaded off Napster one week before its actual release, and yet it debuted at #1 in the UK charts and remained there for a week and it still managed to stay at #1 on the US charts for up to 8 weeks dispite NO official singles having been released...Thats pretty damn remarkable...Noel Gallagher said it best that the secret to the albums success was its total lack of promotion, and that the buzz it got on the internet alone gave it enough hype to become a chart topper, to everyones surprise.

It also proves that illegal downloading has miminal effect on how much a record will actualy sell in the long run.

I would prefer downloading my 7"s off the internet than buying one off eBay for 1000 dollars if i'm lucky enough to actually find it, see bands that produce 100 pressings of a single in the 70s then disappear don't tend to turn up on your doorstep, or your local record store in this case. In saying this I go down to the local record store every weekend and have a look around. So internet has affected music in a good way for me. Without it most of the obscure music I listen to I would never have.

better. now the music industry is more driven by the consumer. Of course it always has been to an extent, but before the internet existed, record companies chose what they wanted the public to hear, and unless you had a record deal, it was basically impossible to be successful. The internet changed all that, now anyone with access to the internet can find any band that puts their stuff out there, regardless of if they're represented by a label or not.

Bump. This is the shit i'm talking about in the post just above.

lol