ok I'm gonna be bold and try and get back on the original topic and pose a what if theory and probably open one of my fave bands up for bashing and flaming but I was the one who asked the opinion, so here goes..
This is more to the people who dislike Kiss either intensely or just a little bit.. What if they'd written basically the same material and style but if they'd started off WITHOUT their makeup I wonder if they would have become as phenominal as they did, of if they would've become lost in the 70's shuffle. This is coming from a fan, too, but I'm thinking they probably might've gotten lost if they had left it off.... And another quesiton would you have possibly liked them any better and given them more credit if hey hadn't done the makeup thing..

Your whole post was comparing them to the Beatles

Thats because i thought you were doing the same, it certainly appeared that way.

All I did was say what I thought was different about the 2 bands in the first line

Oh, well sorry for the misunderstanding, i thought you were implying that The Rolling Stones were a greater band because they were more rock n roll.

The state of recorded music may have suffered had the Beatles not existed, however the state of music would be the same. I really don't think their influence is half as great as people say

Uh no it wouldnt...Not by a f*cking long shot.

I`m not so sure thats true.

Had the Beatles not existed somebody else would have done.It could have been one band , it could have been several bands.It would be different , but i`m not so sure it would be worse.

Not everything they did in such a short time period no, plus that is just mere speculation...Pretty damn insignificant in this case, it dosent take away from the innovations they made.

Still saying everything would be the same is pretty damn ignorant.

Huh?

Of course it`s speculation , I don`t live in a world where the Beatles don`t exist.
How can you quote me as saying 'things will be different' and then say i`m saying things would be the same?