I agree with that.

No. I was the one that pointed out the Jamaicans were doing it. Try again.

Are we really talking about impact? If it weren't for the likes of... Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Bo Diddley, Jackie Brenson (and the Delta Cats), Bill Haley and the Comets, Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Howlin' Wolf, B.B. King, The Everly Bros. the genre wouldn't exist as we know it... it wouldn't have turned into the things we all love. The fact that the genre is still alive and kicking is the resonation of their impact. Let me tell you something. All bands owe it to these pioneers. ALL. Every rock band that exists, and ever will exist owes it to those people. That's a fact. Is it a fact that bands today owe it more to the bands of the British Invasion? No. That's speculation. Conjecture. Your opinion. You aren't apart of every band. You can't decide this for them. What I'm doing is stating a fact. I don't have to be part of every band in existence to say it, either.

No im pretty sure you were the one who listed Ska as a reason for why the US is better...When neither country really deserves the credit.

Also, did you not remember what i said before?...If you really want to trace it back to the 50s, then why not go even further?

Also, who do Radiohead have more in common with?...The Beatles or Chuck Berry?

wow
 

Wow, this is one long thread. I'm not too certain who is "better" but I know I love music from both sides of the pond. I mean we (UK) have great bands like Gomez, whereas they (US) have great bands like Incubus. I don't know enough about music pre-1995 ish (I'm too young :) ), so I'm not going to argue about The Beatles etc.

BUT to say that the US owns the UK because of genres like Hip Hop is just stupid. We don't have much of a hip hop scene here (well, not that I know of), mainly because most MC's go into UK garage or other similar genres. See Dizzie Rascal etc. I love some of the stuff produced by Dangermouse, so I can see the attraction of hip-hop but most is now commercial ****e.

Anyway, US > UK in terms of population so it's kinda unfair don't you think?

No. I was the first one who said neither country deserves the credit. I'll quote it for you if you can't read. I did say America had ska first. I did say ska was influenced by American swing and jazz. I did say ska was a genre that the US does better. I still believe that to be true.

Are you an idiot? The 50's is when the genre that we know as rock and roll was born. This is not opinion. This is fact. That's why I trace it back to the 50's to the guys that started it all. If I want back before the 50's, it would only strengthen my argument - the Brits don't hold a candle to American Music for over the first half of the 20th century. So if you would really like me to trace it back further I can - and will be happy to do so.

Radiohead is English. If someone asked you which people are more alike - and the line up included 2 people that have grown up around each other their whole lives, and another guy from a different country - who would you pick? Radiohead also lists Miles Davis as a major influence in their music (among others British and American) Now, it's common logic that they would be influenced by English bands more than American bands because they grew up in England.

Radiohead is also not the only modern band. So I see what you were trying to do - trying to get me to answer an obvious question and then using my answer against me - as "You see! I was right" - no. That question is esoteric. Stop being an idiot.

This is so pointless and so circumstantial. Although it is fun to see people being called idiots. By virtue of that alone we should keep up this banter.

you need to srew off some where alright you F*ucking moron so back the F*uck off


whose got better techno and electronica???

Yeah, cause instead of an actual music debate lets just close this thread and continue discussing dream theater in every thread!

are we acually agreing ethan????

you going to answer the damn question or do i have to pull teeth to get this thread resurected!!!!!!!!