Urban Hat€monger ?

Well I don`t know about anybody else but I was referring to the last 25 years not just the last couple.Both those bands you mentioned would be very low on my list of 'great indie bands'

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boo boo

Artic Monkeys are better than most popular american indie bands i can think of, especialy that godawful disgrace to music Modest Mouse, also Bright Eyes (very overrated, no offense Misfits ) and Interpol...

I think its close between the UK and US, theres a lot of great modern music out today, from both sides of the atlantic...UK have Radiohead, Oasis, Blur, Muse, MSP, Cooper Temple Clause, Super Furry Animals, The Verve, Mogwai, PJ Harvey, Stereophonics and Artic Monkeys and the US have The Flaming Lips, The White Stripes, The Mars Volta, My Morning Jacket, Rilo Kiley, Beck, Wilco, Explosions In The Sky, Neutral Milk Hotel,The Strokes and Tool.

As for Canada, i think Murder Junkie is very wrong, theres already some great bands coming out of Canada, primarly The Arcade Fire, New Pornographers and Godspeed You! Black Emperor...Those 3 more than make up for Nickelback.

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It's only knock n' knowall, but I like it

http://www.last.fm/user/kingboobs

Urban Hat€monger ?

Depends what you like I spose.

To me most american indie is still generic guitar rock

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littleknowitall

there is no draw, thats a stupid answer thats being used to escape arguing or really thinking about it. and to be honest i see nothing wrong with either of those bands mentioned.

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The two countries are evenly matched, what's the problem with that? I'm not "escaping" the argument, I thought about it for a while and decided that there are a lot of things I like about both countries. But if you really want me to choose, I'll pick the US.

And the two bands I mentioned are boring, derivative, and generic.

Urban, besides completely ignoring some of the US' best and most experimental bands, all genres can be just as easily simplified as you just did so that really says nothing about American Indie at all. Most of those were hardly Indie "movements," anyways.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Well who?

If there are any around i`ve certainly not heard them lately , like I said i`m not saying there isn`t any around i`m saying that if they were British they would have a lot more attention more quickly because the British music industry and British audiences are more open to it.Which was the basis of my original post anyway.

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I think Britain benefits from being a much smaller country than the US. Here things that are wildly popular in one part of the nation could be completely unknown elsewhere. I don't know if this happens in the UK as well (it probably does), but in a country so large it's much more apparent.

As for British audiences being more open to new things, it's no surprise that America is a much more conservative nation. Not just in regards to religion or politics or anything like that, most Americans don't like change at all, even in things like music. Where British music as a whole is constantly changing, American movements happen on a much smaller scale, and usually don't reach the mainstream. This makes it appear as if American music is stagnant, when it's really not. Even in Indie, it would some that 80s influenced and Garage-ish bands are still the big thing, when Indie is leaning further and further towards being more experimental. Noise is getting bigger, Indie Rock is generally less "boring" (even I'll admit that a majority of Indie Rock bands are boring as hell), more Americans are embracing music from outside North America and the UK, etc.

boo boo

Plus you brits probably dont have to put up with sh*tty yet popular nu metal and pop punk bands quite as much as we do.

Plus im sure british radio dosent just play Puddle Of Mudd, Three Doors Down and Nickelback all day.

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It's only knock n' knowall, but I like it

http://www.last.fm/user/kingboobs

Urban Hat€monger ?

I don`t know about that , I can see what you`re saying but on the other hand most of the major labels are U.S. based so what you get forced down your throat over there we get as well , so British bands are trying to compete with that also.You turn on MTV over here & I doubt it`s that different to whats shown over there.

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littleknowitall

the problem is it would be impossible to draw the line at a point in which you can say theyre just as good, so you'd have to pick a side or just not discuss it, if you don't want to debate it then why even post in the first place? to irritate urban?