New Golden Age Of British Music ?
 

So with the Brit awards tonight all i`m seeing lately is people going on about how record sales of British artists are up & how this is supposed to be a golden age of british music.And I think to myself , what utter bollocks.
Now this may be me being a cynical old fart but how anyone can say how great British music is now is beyond me. I remember the mid 90s when we had albums like Whats The Story Morning Glory , Parklife , Dog Man Star , Different Class , The Bends , I Should Coco & Music For The Jilted Generation all coming out within about a year or so of each other.And I just don`t think today compares to that in the slightest.Let`s have a look at who this 'Golden Age' is represented by......

Kaiser Cheifs - Not bad have a couple of good singles but I don`t see them as being anything special.

James Blunt - Sappy singer songwriter who doesn`t even write his own songs.

Arctic Monkeys - I`ll reserve judgement for now but I have a sneaking suspicion that the only reason people are talking so much about them is because there`s not that much else around at the moment.

KT Tunstall - I`ve not seen ANYBODY say anything good about her that isn`t in the media... nuff said

Jack Johnson - Who ?

Gorillaz - Couple of good tunes but Albarns been around over 15 years now , hardly new.

Hard Fi - Saw them live around this time last year playing with The Departure , Tom Vek & Graham Coxon. I`ve never seen a crowd act so indifferent to a band.There were more people at the bar than at the front of the stage , yet everybody was really into the other 3 bands.hmmmm.

Coldplay - The next U2 , will still carry on selling albums by the bucketload & winning awards even when they put out totally sh*t albums.

Franz Ferdinand - Does anybody actually remember their 2nd album?

The Ordinary Boys - Horrible Jam tribute band , I hear their record sales are up about 30% due to big brother, says everything really.

So do this lot represent a new golden age or am I just a cynical old bastard

YOU DECIDE !!!!!!!!!!!

RE: James Blunt = In other wrods an American idol type who never got to be on there..

Overall I'd say the Brits are at least trying, that's for certain...

i'd say that the yanks are taking the mantle of new/interesting music the last couple years...

i actaully really like the Arctic Monkeys Urban :) and you know i do.. there fun and catchy witout being overly annoying

but like new bands in north and south america, england is no better not one conutry is coming out with better or worse music at this point in time.. i really like the Arctic Monkeys from somewhere over there.. and i really like Death From Above from north america, and well most of the bands i do like are from south america or england.. funny how that works..

I don`t mind the arctic monkeys

I just don`t think they`re the greatest new band since sliced bread.

jack johnson is american

Well he`s plastered all over adverts for the Brit awards

I don`t know who the f*ck he is

make no mistake, he's got loads of talent he's a young singer from Oahu, Hawaii(at least thats where he grew up)

really good freinds with ben Harper

I agree with Urban. I don't like any of the bands nominated for brit awards. The 90s were better, but the 70s and 80s were the best in my opinion.

Hell no, if you want a golden year in British music the last one was back in 1997 for me with Radiohead- Ok Computer, The Verve- Urban Hymns and Blur- Blur.

All the major players now are overhyped and overpopular and this 'nu indie' wave as I have heard it described is just pop with guitars for me. I still think there are good British bands around like Editors, Bloc Party and The Coral but I don't see them making the 'Brit Awards'.

yeah, I think so too. They usually don't even have guitar solos either.

Thats actually a plus point in my book

just listened to that track and then noticed your sig... :)

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=13902

:)

the bands you've mentioned do not represent this new golden age in british music. its always a particular genre that booms and becomes the new "golden age"..the 60s brought psychedelia, the 70's punk, the 80s im not totally certain, and the 90s britpop. i think this decade will be remembered for its "nu-indie" boom, bands such as the libertines, bloc party, arctic monkeys, the futureheads, franz ferdinand etc. Of course that isnt everybodies cup of tea, and its hardly ground breaking in terms of originality, but its been the "in-thing" for a couple of years now... and emo is more of a stateside phenomenon in terms of the actual bands arising. i just cant see anything else surfacing and i think this new indie scene will only develop for a couple more years before peetering away. but hey, i like it so im not complaining.

Well it`s not really the indie scene i`m on about this time.

These are the artists that the media & the industry are saying are the new hope as far as Britiish music goes that will go on to conquer the world blah blah blah.

I think it`s a crock of sh*t myself , half of them will be gone in a couple of years.

oh i see. in that case, i agree, tthe artists being hyped in the media (bar the arctic monkeys:finger: ) will all be destroyed by whats made them. though i think the gorillaz generally have the creative pinache to be a long term success.

Yeah don't piss on Jack Johnson, he makes laid back surf music, but he's no brittish, I was suprised that you had him in there.

And I will forever hate the arctic moneys for writing "I bet you'd look good on the dancefloor, I don't know if you're looking for romance or, I don't know what your looking for."

Thats the worst grammar ever and you aren't doing it off the cuff, both dancing and the arctic monkeys rhyme scheme sucks.

I'd honestly like to feel the vibe in the london streets today, but alas, povertiy says no.

I can't imagine anyone with a clue that isn't pushing something thinks this is a golden era.

It`s because sales of British made albums are at a peak since the mid 90s when you had the likes of Blur , Pulp , Oasis , Massive Attack & The Prodigy all putting out good stuff.

Yeah but there getting a push from Coldplay, people don't deviate in large masses. I don't know, but maybe their comfortable buying brittish **** now. I couldn't tell you.

What I also can't tell you is why "just wanting to dance" is now this nobel-level notion that people are like "OMG let me blow you because you make dance music and thats genius"

All the wolf bands in canada, arctic monkeys, franz (who aren't bad but their to blame). I don't get it, I don't think your edge for playing in quadruple meter.

And who voted yes? Show yourself, lets hear it.

the difference being most if not all the major players in the market during the 90s had talent. now how can you class the likes of james blunt as groundbreaking or even talented? anybody can write a mushy song with a chorus that contains two words.

If I never hear another new wave inspired band again it won`t be a day too soon

Except him obviously :laughing:

well i for one fucking love the recent brittish scene.....so fuck y'all!!!

it honestly wouldnt surprise me if a cornish sheep farmer wrote a song about how his goldfish enjoy swimming, added a banjo into the mix, put a couple of funny sound effects in and bobs your uncle - a number one single. its always been the way, the truely talented acts rarely get a looking in the British charts as numskull idiots value novelty over talent. has always been the way in Britain.

You know I've been meaning to ask you Stu, what drugs are you on? I don't know maybe its local lexicon, but "bobs your uncle"?

Is bob my uncle? Well I know thats not true
Is it like bob for unlces like bob for apples? Thats beyond the acid trip

Help me out man.

I think it`s much worse for that in America , I think it`s much easier to chart on small labels here than it is over there.

Amen. Almost impossible to chart on small labels.

I'm a pretty big fan of the brit-rock bands i've been hearing recently. And Jack Johnson, though not british, makes some dope music.

The Arctic Monkeys album is a classic. Coldplay are bland. Gorillaz are fantastic. Kaiser Chiefs are good, but they need to release another album and stop releasing songs off Employment. James Blunt was good at first, but now he's starting to grate a little. How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb is an awful album, and sits right next to OK computer as the worst album in my collection. Oasis are nothing like they used to be-they are average at best. So why did I vote yes on the poll? Well it seems to me that the bands topping the charts now are British. It's great to see a band like the Arctic Monkeys get to number one on talent alone, and its even greater to see a British band break through in a world where gold chains and Gangsters reign supreme. So for that reason alone I voted on Yes, this IS the New Golden Age of British Music. It's not as good as the old Golden Age, but it's the best we've had it in some time.

its a phrase people from london tend to use, and me being from london, you do the rest.

not true, right track uses it too, and he's a manc

I go back on what I have said. I listened to the Radiohead album as I fell to sleep last night and it's not terrible. It's average. And yes I think the Arctic Monkey's album is a classic. Why, do you find it strange that on a music forum people might have different tastes in music?

Brit Awards 2006
 

So what did everyone think of the Brit Awards this year?

Anybody got a link to results or something?

Britsh Group-Kaiser Chiefs
British Breakthrough Act-Arctic Monkeys
British Male Solo Artist-James Blunt
British Female Solo Artist-KT Tunstall
British Album-X&Y
British Single-Speed of Sound
British Urban Act-Lemar
British Rock Act-Kaiser Chiefs
British Live Act-Kaiser Chiefs
Pop Act-James Blunt
International Male Solo Artist-Kanye West
International Female Solo Artist-Madonna
International Group-Green Day
Internation Album-American Idiot
International Breakthrough Artist-Jack Johnson
Outstanding Contribution to music-Paul Weller

I think that the awards were pretty good in general, apart from green Day getting best International Album and Best International Group. It's the most accurate the Brits are ever going to be. Annoyed me a bit though how the Arctic Monkey's Brit for best breakthrough artist was accepted by an American who basically laid into the Brits. The British can do it because it's OUR awards, but when the Yank ripped into them it pissed me off.

That's right mate, "Bob's your Uncle", gets used up here to.
But I prefer "Roberts yer' Dads brother". (makes you think a bit more).