Overrated (jazz, old music, rock, beatles, pink floyd)

jazzfromhell · 02-05-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Just because they influenced bands that we like, doesnt mean we have to like them. Do you go home and listen to the Gregorian Chant? Do you like the Gregorian Chant? YOU DON'T!!!!!! OMG YOU ARE AN IDIOT! THE GREGORIAN CHANT INSPIRED ALL MUSIC! Therefore you must be an idiot because you don't like it. You have bad taste. Your musical Knowledge is lacking. You are a NOOb, you suck balls, and you are a ****ing idiot (sound familiar?)

Just to clarify, I realize this is heavily sarcastic, but the Grevorian Chants didn't influence jack ****. Maybe some stuff in opera, or classical (maybe), which maybe gives it some remote ties to prog, but otherwise, no modern rock/pop/jazz/rap/whatever, etc. music has anything to do with Gregorian Chants.

boo boo · 02-05-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell

Just to clarify, I realize this is heavily sarcastic, but the Grevorian Chants didn't influence jack ****. Maybe some stuff in opera, or classical (maybe), which maybe gives it some remote ties to prog, but otherwise, no modern rock/pop/jazz/rap/whatever, etc. music has anything to do with Gregorian Chants.

Well, there are prog bands that have some Gregorian influence on their vocal harmonys.

King Crimson and Yes in paticular.

~~bungalow~~ · 02-05-2006, 07:28 PM

Good thing I am not religious

jazzfromhell · 02-05-2006, 11:21 PM

I suppose so for the first two; Kashmir, although a great song, sort of sounds like the riff was just taken out of some classical song (none in particular) and repeated over and over again (but there I go contradicting myself from earlier, saying that classical hasn't influenced rock).

boo boo · 02-05-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell

I suppose so for the first two; Kashmir, although a great song, sort of sounds like the riff was just taken out of some classical song (none in particular) and repeated over and over again (but there I go contradicting myself from earlier, saying that classical hasn't influenced rock).

Classical has certainly influenced progressive rock, some fractions of it anyway, primarly Symphonic Prog.

jazzfromhell · 02-05-2006, 11:35 PM

Yeah, that's what I said in my earlier post. But outside of that, what's it influenced (not trying to imply it hasn't influenced any of it, I'm curious)? I suppose there's a bunch of metal that has some classical influences, is there anything else?

TheBig3 · 02-05-2006, 11:42 PM

Also I don't want to come off as a Zep fan boi here, but this is the same argument used every time.

Did Led Zep rip off their country riffs? Or their Folk riffs? or how about that salsa jam in the middle of Fool in the rain?

I don't ask much, I just ask that you educate yourself enough to speak intelligently. Maybe im asking to much, so if I am, please refrain from "recycling" the same garbage a million other posters here stated. The newbs need the help, you regulars should know better.

boo boo · 02-06-2006, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Also I don't want to come off as a Zep fan boi here, but this is the same argument used every time.

Did Led Zep rip off their country riffs? Or their Folk riffs? or how about that salsa jam in the middle of Fool in the rain?

I don't ask much, I just ask that you educate yourself enough to speak intelligently. Maybe im asking to much, so if I am, please refrain from "recycling" the same garbage a million other posters here stated. The newbs need the help, you regulars should know better.

I dont think Bungalowbill will be a regular anymore.

jazzfromhell · 02-05-2006, 11:50 PM

I didn't say that they ripped off the specific riffs of the folk or country or salsa stuff, but it's not like the style had never been used before, but they ripped off the style. And that's fine, because everyone rips off someone else in some way, and Led Zeppelin kicked ass while doing it. However, they shouldn't be credited as original for writing folk songs or mixing latin rhythms into their music.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 02-06-2006, 03:11 AM

he'll come back. hopefully not to be banned permanently.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	Also I don't want to come off as a Zep fan boi here, but this is the same argument used every time. Did Led Zep rip off their country riffs? Or their Folk riffs? or how about that salsa jam in the middle of Fool in the rain? I don't ask much, I just ask that you educate yourself enough to speak intelligently. Maybe im asking to much, so if I am, please refrain from "recycling" the same garbage a million other posters here stated. The newbs need the help, you regulars should know better. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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jazzfromhell SHAKE! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the A train. Posts: 210	I suppose so for the first two; Kashmir, although a great song, sort of sounds like the riff was just taken out of some classical song (none in particular) and repeated over and over again (but there I go contradicting myself from earlier, saying that classical hasn't influenced rock).

02-05-2006, 11:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
jazzfromhell SHAKE! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the A train. Posts: 210	Yeah, that's what I said in my earlier post. But outside of that, what's it influenced (not trying to imply it hasn't influenced any of it, I'm curious)? I suppose there's a bunch of metal that has some classical influences, is there anything else?

02-05-2006, 11:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
jazzfromhell SHAKE! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the A train. Posts: 210	I didn't say that they ripped off the specific riffs of the folk or country or salsa stuff, but it's not like the style had never been used before, but they ripped off the style. And that's fine, because everyone rips off someone else in some way, and Led Zeppelin kicked ass while doing it. However, they shouldn't be credited as original for writing folk songs or mixing latin rhythms into their music.