he'll come back. hopefully not to be banned permanently.

Over-rated?
 

The Beatles are far too over-rated. I have heard nearly all the songs they've ever done, and frankly, they don't impress. I think 'Beatlemania' (which for some weird reason still appears to be going on today), is an over-rated 40 year old piece of the past, and should die a quick death. I see their music as an insult to stereo manufacturers. Most of the members of the band are dead, loads of the people who liked them in the 60's are also dead, and still people worship this out of date, immature, over-the-top, embarrassment of a 'band'. Let it die, please.... :(

I take it that by nearly all their songs, you mean maybe 6 or 7 songs, or all the songs you have on a greatest hits compilation.

A embarrassment?...Gee, influencing a whole ****load of great bands and changing the face of rock music as we know it, what a embarassment indeed. :rolleyes:

Do you like Dream Theater by any chance?

Thank God you spelled this out for me, I've always tried convincing people that dead people have no importance to society whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Okay, we're going have a problem here. Let's set the record straight.

No, all their 'better' songs. And they're not very good.

Well, I think they're embarrassing. I even get embarrassed myself listening to songs such as 'Love me do' and 'A hard days night'. And please don't mention their videos, for goodness sake.

I don't think so. :crazy:
You mean to say that 'The Beatles' INFLUENCED rock bands such as Poison, Krokus, Saxon, Survivor, and others I can mention?? You're crazy..... :laughing:

Who the hell are they?!


Did I say that??? -

No, I bloody well didn't!!!

That's it - let's put words into someone elses mouth.....

I never said that people who've died have no importance whatsoever - of course they do. I merely mentioned the fact that many of the people who liked 'The Beatles' back then, are dead now. But I can't help noticing that loads of people who like The Beatles now, are younger than the songs themselves. I can understand that people like different types of music, but not music which represents an over-the-top (and quite daft) approach to fairly modern music. Thank goodness most bands have calmed down these days.

And please get your facts right before you make sarcastic comments which accuse me of saying that dead people 'have no importance to society whatsoever', when I clearly didn't.


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Survivor?...Are you kidding me?...Radiohead, The Ramones, Pink Floyd, Elvis Costello, David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, The Who, Nirvana, REM, U2, Cream, Yes, King Crimson, Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Velvet Underground, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Michael Jackson, Genesis, Patti Smith, My Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Smashing Pumpkins, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, The Cure, Joy Division, Bjork, Guns N Roses, Queen, Todd Rundgren, Portishead, The Eagles and just a few thousand others...No impact alright. :rolleyes:

And Love Me Do?...What kind of example is that?...Thats like judging David Bowies career on China Girl.

what wrong with people liking old music?, and the majority of people who liked the beatles "back then" would be in their late 40s./early mid 50s. and even if they were dead, why should that effect how good the music is? If people today, still love the beatles, even 40 years later, that shows that the music they produced was way ahead of it's time,which totally shows how much of a great band they were. you're an idiot, and you ARE saying that if someones dead they have no importance.

Nothing, as long as it's good music.
It doesn't, but it shows how silly young people are today, for rating 40-odd year old bands (that weren't that good in the first place) above modern bands.... - they're STUCK in the past.
Wrong!! The Beatles, apart from making some classic tracks, also made some sh*t ones. Let's not forget that. Most of their tracks were frankly 'over-the-top', and a bit too nice. Let's face it - 'The Beatles', as a group of people, were a bunch of weirdo's!!! To me, they're very UN-likeable.
No I'm NOT saying that people who're dead have no importance. What about the royals of the past? They're important, and what about the engineers, such as Isambard Kingdom Brunel? His bridge is still used today, 147 years after his death. And what about the surgeons of the past, testing out new ways to operate on people? They all matter.

Oh come on, let's not fight! Why do people like you take it upon themselves to get personal with someone and start calling them names?? It just makes you look like an idiot. Well, you must be a bit of a duffer, because you're taking this all too seriously!! :laughing:

i believe that TOOL is vastly overrated. its nothing more than emo w/ a little more percussion.

Rolling stones, beatles, Coldplay, Madonna, Britney ...

Dream Theater are an amazing progressive metal band. I think Boo Boo was asking if you liked them as an insult as he clearly doesn't.

Replace emo with grunge & i`ll agree with you. But it is good to finally see someone who agrees with me about that band at long last.

I just don`t see anything special about this band whatsoever.

For some reason my previous post to Luke M has been deleted, but I would just like to say that whatever your opinion on The Beatles is, you can't deny their influence to music and their impact on the world in general. So, no matter if you like them or dislike them, you cannot argue with the FACT that they are one of the best bands to ever grace this Earth.

I never said i didnt like them (i dont), i just said that they arent really progressive, theres more to being progressive than just complexity, odd time signatures, long songs and virtuoso musicianship...It also requires a little originality....The fact of the matter is, Petrucci and the gang spend way too much time reading the idiots guide for how to be a 70s progressive rock band, and not enough time on finding their own identity or a style that suits their talents, plus they have the worst vocalist in the world, and some very bad lyrics to boot...Its true that the biggest weakness for many prog bands is the lyrics (ELP for example, had very mediocre lyrics), but many of these bands make up for it with their music, not the case for DT, at least in my opinion.

Im not saying DT arent progressive rock, in genre terms they are, just not in terms of their actual music, because they're simply not doing anything new, and after all thats what being progressive means, doing something new, at least in a certain sense...Its like how Green Day are a punk rock band, but they arent really punk...Simple way of putting it, i find Dream Theater to be a very overrated prog band, especialy when people say they are the best prog band today or that they are a top 10 prog band...Most of these people have barely listened to more than a dozen or so prog bands to start with...And they dont even understand the basic principles of being progressive rock.

everyone i know would go g@y for them at the drop of a hat. i personally think they are rubbish.

Ill agree that Dream Theater is hardly prog...some main things about prog are originality (like the mars volta) and it seems to me DT just picked up all kinda\s of things from other REAL prog bands and added virtuosos and whatnot

I think DT are pretty original, and although they are clearly influenced by 70s progressive bands, I can't think of any which have the same sound as Dream Theater.
Boo Boo said that they don't progress, but in my opinion all their albums are different from each other and unique. It's not as if their style remains the same all the time.
I also don't see what's wrong with their lyrics. I think that Scenes From A Memory, for example, is interesting and thought provoking, and James La Brie is a very talented singer.

Dream Theater are just a normal rock band with wanky musicians.

But they are the only band who can make me throw up just by seeing an album cover.

Instrumentaly, a lot of their stuff reminds me of Rush with a different singer...Plus they sound like Styx and Saga to me, and neither of those bands were top of the prog heap to begin with.

I just don`t see how a band who uses every cliche under the sun (Their song titles seriously make me piss myself laughing) can call themselves progressive.

I bet they even have amps that go up to 11.

People call them prog because they use all the cliches of prog, and do the same things that have been done in the 70s and 80s, but with more technical ability on their instruments, and a bit (by a bit i mean a lot) more wanking...Because DT employ prog rock cliches unlike bands such as Radiohead, they are considered prog and Radiohead are not...Thats the thing, people try and put limits on progressive rock, a genre that should have NO limits.

But im your more progressive progressive rock fan. ;)

I really like Rush, but I don't think DT sound like them.

^ In what way are they cliched?

Also there's no way that they're "wanky musicians." All the DT members are really talented.
There doesn't seem to be many Dt fans on this forum

Join DDD...aka DigitalDreamDoor.com...I'd say they wank a good deal...I have no problem with long and technical instrumentals (being a ELP and Yes fan) but DT just dont do anything to grab my attention, amazing musicians they all are, but it makes no difference to me, they have no ballance, every prog band needs a ballance...I say Petrucci wanks a good deal, i have heard him live several times, he would overuse pinch harmonics, and he would sound like a dog that got run over by a truck.

Mind blowing technical chops dosent always produce good music, just look at Cooley and Batio.

Long solos
high pitched vocals
album imagery
even longer solos
awful awful song titles & lyrics
and the usual drums , guitar , bass , keyboard set up that adds nothing remotly new.


I bet you`ll never see a DT album with beats & samples , or influences from other genres , or electronica , or anything like that.Radiohead do thats why people like boo boo (i`m assuming here) & myself consider them progressive. Because they try to do original things.

I think Radiohead are very progressive when they want to be...They are not always progressive, but more progressive than some bands people consider progressive, anyway.

Yeah, I agree. I suppose I just like DT's music and you don't. :)
I will join DDD, looks pretty cool.

Trust me, more people there share your tastes.

Yeah, I doubt DT would be influenced by electronica, but in my opinion, that's a good thing. lol

I definitely consider Radiohead to be a progressive band, and I agree that they are original. I just don't like them as much as DT.

Cool :)

Arctic monkeys, big fuss over nothing if you ask me. but then again, i would say that cause i dont like them. cept one song.

Green day, Fallout boy

People rate Fallout boy?

Must have been asleep that day

Then you are a lucky soul.

Bright Eyes is overrated.

hehe

Okay cheers.

You're right, I can't. I know that they're very good, and have provided ideas (without knowing it) for modern bands to make their own music. And I know that only the legend himself - Elvis Presley, of course, has had more UK hits than The Beatles. In fact, only one more. So well done The Beatles, I know that I can't say that you're crap, but I just don't like your music. :)

Greenday... so pop... so commercial. So crappy.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Green Day has been around a lot longer than Good Charlotte and they kept it real back in the day. Who do you think is one of GC's influences?

Hmmm... the thread was on what I'm listening right now... so I tell what I'm listening right now. I have have over 4000 songs on my playlist and I put it on random... it could have been a Greenday... 50 Cent... Rise Against song. If I listened to Greenday whe I was younger I keep their songs on my computer. Same thing for Good Charlotte. I'm not denying your point 'cause I also think that Greenday is one of biggest influence of Good Charlotte...

and I exagerated by using the word ''crappy''... I admit that I'm still listening to them sometimes but I also still think that they are overrated!

Then why did you say they were crappy. If they are crappy to you and you listen to them then you must have a sh*tty taste in music.


Usher is overrated...extremely

If you have read all the post you should know that I said that I listen regulary to Greenday in the past and if I have listen to it recently is that I hit it on the random. Why I don't delete it? 'Cause I'm keeping all the songs that I liked in the past on my cpu.