Music's dead. (rock, cd, single, albums, offspring)

~~THE GOLDEN STRING~~ · 11-14-2005, 08:12 PM

Music Is The Breath Of God

boo boo · 11-14-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by THE GOLDEN STRING

Music Is The Breath Of God

Good music is anyway.

Bad music is the flatulence of Satan.

dog · 11-15-2005, 06:46 AM

i think music has gotten worse, not all bands today are garbage, but there is alotta crap out there, and there always has been, even in the late 60s, there were awful bands. i think theres more lesser bands now than there were before.

franscar · 11-15-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crimepartner

ok so what do you consider more mainstreem in music then mtv? Iam not supporting mtv in any way, but I mean its such a huge part of publicity for musicians how can it not have effects on making bands mainstreem?

the radio can have an effect but It doesn't give the image or the trends. when you say the state of music you mean ROCK, or music as a whole, because as rock is my point

MTV is a pop channel playing pop records. They are interested in profits, and in bands that will make them money. These are only rarely the bands that are actually making music that is new, inventive, fresh and exciting. Was MTV interested in the White Stripes first two albums? Not at all. Are they interested in them now? Yes. Hugely. Because they make money now.

MTV isn't going to take risks and attempt to showcase things that might or might not become popular as a result, they're only interested in what's already popular.

MTV looks for the lowest common denominator, and always will. I'm sure it was the same in the 60's and 70's as well. The cream always rises to the top, and in thirty years people will probably look back wistfully on the 00's and sigh to themselves saying how wonderful the music was back then.

crimepartner · 11-15-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar

MTV is a pop channel playing pop records. They are interested in profits, and in bands that will make them money. These are only rarely the bands that are actually making music that is new, inventive, fresh and exciting. Was MTV interested in the White Stripes first two albums? Not at all. Are they interested in them now? Yes. Hugely. Because they make money now.

MTV isn't going to take risks and attempt to showcase things that might or might not become popular as a result, they're only interested in what's already popular.

MTV looks for the lowest common denominator, and always will. I'm sure it was the same in the 60's and 70's as well. The cream always rises to the top, and in thirty years people will probably look back wistfully on the 00's and sigh to themselves saying how wonderful the music was back then.

everything on mtv is considered pop? why do they have terrible those r and r promos?

look at korn for example... they were big when they were moderately in mtv, but when they started playing follow the leader material everyday, they got even bigger. I dont get your answer, but led zep Has a good point....

franscar · 11-15-2005, 02:41 PM

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap.

Merkaba · 11-15-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

The sad thing is it probably would earn them money if they tried to be innovative. Unfortunately the old adage goes, why change something that doesn't need changing.

Spikey · 11-15-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Good music is anyway.

Bad music is the flatulence of Satan.

You're right there! Music's DEAD DEAD DEAD,(-Chanting ) DEAD DEAD DEAD
Tee hee

ClayManSteve · 11-15-2005, 04:56 PM

it's the company and the changing taste of people. no music is bad. it's all opinion.

crimepartner · 11-15-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap.

what Iam saying is korn got WAY bigger when mtv started playing them on TRL. whether your ignorant or dont see it its evident if you went to the trouble to make a graph at cd sales.
Did I say mtv played boring, generic crap? I was talking about the rock scene being currupted into an incoherent image of music.... actually I think you are even making me drift....

led zeps earlier point was pretty good

11-15-2005, 06:46 AM	#83 (permalink)
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11-15-2005, 02:41 PM	#86 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 665	I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash. That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap. __________________ Franscar is metal. You are not.

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