Music's dead. (rock, cd, single, albums, offspring)

crimepartner · 11-15-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar

MTV is a pop channel playing pop records. They are interested in profits, and in bands that will make them money. These are only rarely the bands that are actually making music that is new, inventive, fresh and exciting. Was MTV interested in the White Stripes first two albums? Not at all. Are they interested in them now? Yes. Hugely. Because they make money now.

MTV isn't going to take risks and attempt to showcase things that might or might not become popular as a result, they're only interested in what's already popular.

MTV looks for the lowest common denominator, and always will. I'm sure it was the same in the 60's and 70's as well. The cream always rises to the top, and in thirty years people will probably look back wistfully on the 00's and sigh to themselves saying how wonderful the music was back then.

everything on mtv is considered pop? why do they have terrible those r and r promos?

look at korn for example... they were big when they were moderately in mtv, but when they started playing follow the leader material everyday, they got even bigger. I dont get your answer, but led zep Has a good point....

dog · 11-15-2005, 05:46 AM

i think music has gotten worse, not all bands today are garbage, but there is alotta crap out there, and there always has been, even in the late 60s, there were awful bands. i think theres more lesser bands now than there were before.

franscar · 11-15-2005, 01:41 PM

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap.

Merkaba · 11-15-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

The sad thing is it probably would earn them money if they tried to be innovative. Unfortunately the old adage goes, why change something that doesn't need changing.

crimepartner · 11-15-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar

I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash.

That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap.

what Iam saying is korn got WAY bigger when mtv started playing them on TRL. whether your ignorant or dont see it its evident if you went to the trouble to make a graph at cd sales.
Did I say mtv played boring, generic crap? I was talking about the rock scene being currupted into an incoherent image of music.... actually I think you are even making me drift....

led zeps earlier point was pretty good

ClayManSteve · 11-15-2005, 03:56 PM

it's the company and the changing taste of people. no music is bad. it's all opinion.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-16-2005, 08:08 PM

I hate KORN! Has anyone heard their new single, I just about puked. Jon Davis is an ass raped moron.

Merkaba · 11-16-2005, 10:21 PM

^Yes. Seen the clip? It's actually quite funny with snoop and Xzibit as rock stars but you're right. Twisted Transistor is awful, its like heavy pop. No distinguishable guitar or defining drums or anything.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-17-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

^Yes. Seen the clip? It's actually quite funny with snoop and Xzibit as rock stars but you're right. Twisted Transistor is awful, its like heavy pop. No distinguishable guitar or defining drums or anything.

Ah no. Are Snoop and Xzibit in it? Are you ****ing serious?

It's like how Gwen Stefani has gone from No Doubt to hanging out with Pharrel.

And Maddona still partying with 19 year-olds in her video-clips.

Merkaba · 11-17-2005, 12:11 AM

^ Well Spotted.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Ah no. Are Snoop and Xzibit in it? Are you ****ing serious?

It's like how Gwen Stefani has gone from No Doubt to hanging out with Pharrel.

And Maddona still partying with 19 year-olds in her video-clips.

Pharrel, maaan, I hate that guy. Maddona's a material gwirl...man I loved that song when I was six, it was so seductive *runs, not looking back*

11-15-2005, 05:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
dog this bird has flown Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: paris,texas Posts: 843	i think music has gotten worse, not all bands today are garbage, but there is alotta crap out there, and there always has been, even in the late 60s, there were awful bands. i think theres more lesser bands now than there were before. __________________ formerly ledzeppelinrulz. http://theraffinkids.bandcamp.com/ music^

11-15-2005, 01:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 667	I'm not sure you understood my point. Korn are on one of the largest record labels in the world, and MTV plays their music. They play it because they know it will make them money, and that's all they're interested in. They're not interested in showcasing anything new and innovative, because it doesn't make them large amounts of cash. That's why it's pretty impossible to use MTV playing boring, generic crap as evidence that music is being overrun by boring, generic crap. __________________ Franscar is metal. You are not.

11-15-2005, 03:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
ClayManSteve Groupie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: somewhere over the rainbow.. Posts: 34	it's the company and the changing taste of people. no music is bad. it's all opinion. __________________

11-16-2005, 08:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,775	I hate KORN! Has anyone heard their new single, I just about puked. Jon Davis is an ass raped moron. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

11-16-2005, 10:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	^Yes. Seen the clip? It's actually quite funny with snoop and Xzibit as rock stars but you're right. Twisted Transistor is awful, its like heavy pop. No distinguishable guitar or defining drums or anything. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker