DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

And ^therein^ lies one of the big problems:

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SweetHeartHolly

^^^ Can I ask what is so bad about bringing back something that hasn't been front and center in a long time?

God bless you always!!!

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Buckeye Randy

There is nothing wrong with music revivals or even taking something previously done and giving it a twist. Honor among thieves, indeed!

Early Rock n Roll was a hodge podge of things. Alan Freed said this, "Rock n roll music comes from the levees and the plantations".

The British blues came from American blues artists 20 or more years earlier. Everything grows from a seed. It is a timeless theme in music.

Last truly original craze? Somebody tell me!

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

There's nothing "wrong" with musical revivals. But if you're resorting to revivals of stuff that's already been around to get your "new form of popular music" (the thread title), then that goes to show that your genre has more or less exhausted its possibilities and is increasingly resorting to recycled old stuff to get its "new" stuff.

When "new" is no longer really new then it's probably time to move on to something completely different.

That's why I said in post #4 that popular music needs to die. The entire (meta-)genre is pretty much exhausted and needs to be retired in favor of something completely different. It's also why you're hearing so much 40-60 year old popular music everywhere. That was obviously its "Golden Age" and is still popular. Why bother making imitations of that stuff when you can just listen to the original?

There's only so much you can do with ~2-5 minute "songs" with a verse-chorus structure, repeating melodies and rhyming lyrics. After a billion or so of those written you're simply going to exhaust its possibilities. That's where we are now. Increasingly, "popular" music is becoming a legacy musical form (like Classical music and, to a lesser extent, Jazz) where the most popular stuff is stuff written in the increasingly distant past. Again, that's why 40-60 year old popular music is still so popular. 100 years from now people will still be listening to the Beatles and Madonna the way some people listen to Beethoven and Tchaikovsky.

In order to get something totally, completely "new," the entire structure(s) and ideas behind popular music would have to be completely abandoned. And that would probably make it cease to become "popular music."

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BTW I discussed my thinking on what I'm referring to above in this thread here 3-4 years ago. Had meant to start another thread on my idea for a new form of music but haven't gotten around to it.

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Buckeye Randy

Thanks, I now have a clearer picture for the lack of discussion at this messageboard.

I must ask the question, what do you think was the last "new" music era?

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Gladly, music genres and music tendencies can co-exist. And, of course, there will always be some kind of "popular" music. K-pop like reggaeton seem nowadays in vogue, but I'm not sure they're offering something really new. But isn't popular music generally something that should be recognizable, that is harking back to - but maybe reworking - some existing formulas?

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DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

Within popular music, I'd say rap/hip-hop in the 80's.

In a broader sense, as I noted in my thread that I linked above, I'd say the modern paradigm of "popular music" started when electronic recorded music became a thing in the early 1900's.

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Buckeye Randy

We think alike my friend, I agree that hip hop was a game changer.

Sooo....you mention the early 1900's. Our local public station has a weekly show at 5PM every Friday, 'Cruisin' The Decades'.

Cruisin’ The Decades is a one-of-a-kind weekly 60-minute radio program broadcasting over 100 years of recorded music, playing one song per decade from the 1920’s to the 2020’s. Cruisin’ The Decades shines a spotlight on several genres of music, while focusing on the history, technology of recording, and evolution of popular music from yesterday to today. The show is about collecting records, listening to the radio, the power of music, geography, and bringing listeners together across vast distances through the enjoyment of music. It’s an audio time machine; a journey through recorded, popular music history!

You can listen to shows at the website.
https://cruisinthedecades.com/

I'll comment a little about host Brad Savage. I've heard Brad host events and his over-all knowledge and quick recall of music information is possibly the best I've ever witnessed.