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Mondo Bungle 05-01-2015 06:34 PM

Join my region and let's run those untrue into devastation
NationStates | The Unknown Forests of Mghialrgroseth

The Batlord 05-01-2015 08:15 PM

I will never betray my fascist brothers. Down with liberal democracy!

The Batlord 05-01-2015 11:37 PM

The Fascist Union apparently encourages it's members to set up "raider nations" to conduct military operations. To preserve your main nation, I guess. All fear the military prowess of The Federation of The Luxurious Beard of Odin's combat wing, The Armed Republic of The Stench. The Luxurious Beard of Odin über alles!

NationStates | The Armed Republic of The Stench

Isbjørn 05-02-2015 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1584505)
You do realise that's almost FAECES, don't you? Way to pick a great acronym man! :laughing:

Also Isbjorn, I'm not seeing your new flag...

Link is probably broken because I changed it. Aight:


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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1584616)
Join my region and let's run those untrue into devastation
NationStates | The Unknown Forests of Mghialrgroseth

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1584649)
I will never betray my fascist brothers. Down with liberal democracy!

Your regions ain't got **** on the Lamarian Alliance of Swagiania.

http://s7.postimg.org/a3yzupwzv/communsiste_copy.png

Trollheart 05-02-2015 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1584728)
The Fascist Union apparently encourages it's members to set up "raider nations" to conduct military operations. To preserve your main nation, I guess. All fear the military prowess of The Federation of The Luxurious Beard of Odin's combat wing, The Armed Republic of The Stench. The Luxurious Beard of Odin über alles!

NationStates | The Armed Republic of The Stench

TARTS? :laughing:
(It's fun being the Batlord in this thread, making fun of his efforts for once. Oh, I could get used to this!)

WWWP 05-02-2015 07:26 AM

Join the matriarchy, motherlovers NationStates | The Matriarchy of Yoniphallia

Psy-Fi 05-02-2015 07:54 AM

You could always start your own actual micronation with a bit of imagination and effort.

Welcome to Liberland, the tiny patch of woodland claiming to be the world's newest country - Telegraph

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations

The Batlord 05-02-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1584772)
TARTS? :laughing:
(It's fun being the Batlord in this thread, making fun of his efforts for once. Oh, I could get used to this!)

Your dad jokes are indeed scathing. The Gestapo would surely love to hear more.

Trollheart 05-02-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1584813)
Your dad jokes are indeed scathing. The Gestapo would surely love to hear more.

Sorry it would be a gas I know but I'm not jew there yet. I'm Goering to have to decline your invitation, so there'll be fuehrer there than you would want. Just concentrate on the final solution, otherwise you're just a Bormann....

Isbjørn 05-02-2015 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1584907)
Sorry it would be a gas I know but I'm not jew there yet. I'm Goering to have to decline your invitation, so there'll be fuehrer there than you would want. Just concentrate on the final solution, otherwise you're just a Bormann....

Stop telling dad jokes. Make a nation and join my region, goddammit.

Trollheart 05-02-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1584922)
Stop telling dad jokes. Make a nation and join my region, goddammit.

Sorry, couldn't possibly crowbar it into my very busy schedule. Making fun of you guys is taking up enough of my valuable time as it is...

Pet_Sounds 05-03-2015 06:26 AM

NationStates | The Constitutional Monarchy of Wilceria

I started with the most inoffensive government I could think of, and now I'm manipulating its gradual descent into a dictatorship.

Isbjørn 05-03-2015 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1585307)
NationStates | The Constitutional Monarchy of Wilceria

I started with the most inoffensive government I could think of, and now I'm manipulating its gradual descent into a dictatorship.

Yo, check your telegram pile.

Pet_Sounds 05-03-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1585308)
Yo, check your telegram pile.

Check yours.

Isbjørn 05-03-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1585322)
Check yours.

Checker yourser.

WWWP 05-03-2015 11:11 AM

http://i58.tinypic.com/29ekdq8.jpg

Mondo Bungle 05-05-2015 03:38 PM

Looks like Grimfrost is in the top 10% of the world for happiest citizens

The Batlord 05-08-2015 12:18 PM

I originally started my fascist nation for the amusement factor, but in trying to conform my nation's policies to fascism I've had to do some casual research when deciding issues, and it's actually been an interesting learning experience.

For instance, I had little to no understanding of how fascist economic policies actually functioned, so I've really had to look up internet articles every time an economic policy issue pops up. It's pretty interesting to learn that many of America and Europe's democratic socialist economic policies have actually been as influenced by Italian fascism as actual socialism.

Whereas socialism dictates complete government control of the private sector, there was more of an incestuous partnership between the two in fascism, which apparently was an influence on FDR's New Deal. Basically, private companies were allowed to remain private, and their profits remained in private hands, but they were dictated to an extent by different government committees that partnered with each specific industry in order to direct the economy as a whole to the state's ultimate goals.

Obviously this led to corruption, and many government and business leaders would transfer between the two sectors (apparently many retired Italian generals served on company boards, just like many government officials in America end up in the business sector and vice versa). And if a business lost profits, the loss would be subsidized by the state, so that "profits were private, but losses were public".

For a time this worked fantastically, which is why so many leaders in Democratic countries looked to Italy for inspiration when creating more interventionist economic policies, but eventually ended up in disaster -- I guess when Mussolini became unable to adapt to shifting economic conditions.

A lot of modern, democratic socialist economic policies actually seem to reflect old fascist ideals more than they do legitimate socialist ones, the main difference being that Western democracies generally don't engage in centralized economic planning. The banking bailout at the beginning of the American recession being a prime example, along with the quasi-oligarchical relationship between big business and politicians.

I don't pretend to draw any conclusions about all this, as I'm only just educating myself on the subject, but it's definitely interesting. At the very least, I find it funny that fiscal conservatives don't try to make more comparisons between modern liberalism and fascism, rather than socialism. I guess they're either not aware of the seeming parallels, or they just don't think the public would get the comparisons, and just roll their eyes at trying to make Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton look like Hitler.

WWWP 05-08-2015 12:41 PM

^ I'm absolutely loving it for similar reasons. I decided when I began my nation that I would approach and decide where to take each issue the same way I would (and tend to) form casual opinions about the same issues in the real world.

I'm very quickly seeing the complexity of issues I didn't have a lot of experience with or education about before. It's a very clever and well written game. I'm learning a lot.

Isbjørn 05-11-2015 12:31 PM

http://s4.postimg.org/d5datcw8d/slaves.png

I... is this wrong?

Isbjørn 05-13-2015 11:39 AM

Bissheeesss, my economy is now "basket case". Aaaww yeah.


Pet_Sounds 05-13-2015 08:31 PM

I feel uber-rebellious, hanging out and being allied with a bunch of Norwegian teenagers who are probably all commies and black metal vocalists.

DeadChannel 05-13-2015 10:12 PM

**** it, I'm in.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=idi_i_smotri

Black Francis 05-13-2015 10:16 PM

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The Grand Duchy of Chien Andalusia is a fledgling, orderly nation, remarkable for its complete lack of prisons and absence of drug laws. The hard-working, cynical population of 5 million Chien Andalusians are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows.

The medium-sized, liberal, well-organized government juggles the competing demands of Spirituality, Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 32.0%.

The Chien Andalusian economy, worth 189 billion Zennies a year, is broadly diversified and led by the Gambling industry, with major contributions from Soda Sales, Furniture Restoration, and Cheese Exports. Black market activity is notable. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is 37,975 Zennies, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 3.2 times as much as the poorest.
Also our animal is the Flyin Spider

DeadChannel 05-13-2015 10:19 PM

Good name, <3 Luis Bunel.

Black Francis 05-13-2015 11:18 PM

Thnx :)

What does Idi I smotri mean?

lol nice motto btw

DeadChannel 05-13-2015 11:45 PM

It's a film by Elem Klimov, translating to "Come and See".

I just though it sounded cool. Plus, really good movie.

Isbjørn 05-14-2015 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1589156)
I feel uber-rebellious, hanging out and being allied with a bunch of Norwegian teenagers who are probably all commies and black metal vocalists.

United we stand :ar_15s:

The Batlord 05-14-2015 10:11 AM

For the last week, my country has been involved in an international incident after invading "Brasilistan" -- in our defense, our citizens were being kidnapped for some purpose I have forgotten. It turns out, so long as you have justification, the international community really will just sit back and grumble while you bomb a neighboring country's civilian centers into the stone age and then occupy them.


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Issue Series
“An International Incident”

The Story So Far

The problems in Brasilistan were mounting daily. So, when push came to shove, an advisor told you to just take it over. And you did.

The Issue

The dust has settled and, somehow, The Luxurious Beard of Odin is now the proud owner of a new colony! There are still some teething issues, however, and there are some cultural and societal conflicts between settlers and native peoples. It's up to you on how best to resolve these issues.

The Debate

"Obviously we need to remove the settlers", Steffan Leach, Chairperson of the The Luxurious Beard of Odin Council of Immigration Studies says frankly. "Pulling out completely and leaving the remaining populace to their own devices, however, would be detrimental and irresponsible. Ideally what needs to be done is to make Brasilistan a full part of The Luxurious Beard of Odin, and give the remaining Brasilistanis full citizenship. We'd all be part of the same country, with the same citizenship, and the same rights and responsibilities."

Accept

"Woah, hold on there, that's way too drastic, and way too fast", your Interior Minister chuckles. "That's not going to solve the issues they're facing today over there right now. We need to come up with some sort of initiative that slowly integrates the Brasilistanis into our culture. You should appoint panels of arbiters consisting of international experts to broker agreements between settlers and natives where necessary too. It'll work, definitely. Probably."

Accept

"It's our land now", your energy advisor says quietly. "It's ours. Our own. Our precious. Eh, where was I … oh yes, Brasilistan. Look, there's not that many Brasilistani left, let's just give them the useless pockets of land. Like those on mountain slopes or in bogland. All oil-rich and arable lands can be kept for ourselves. Sure, it's a little like segregation, but at least everyone will be happy, right?"

This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.


"All these options are valid, to be sure, but I have an easier way of settling this", Robin Chicago, head of the nation's nuclear program says in a matter-of-fact tone. "Can we please just nuke the place? Get our own guys out first, obviously but then just nuke it. We don't need a colony, but we do need a nuclear testing site. Our own citizens here are getting annoyed we're destroying good land in The Luxurious Beard of Odin when there's a perfectly good dump in the form of Brasilistan."

Accept

The Government Position

The government has indicated its intention to follow the recommendations of Option 3.
My only regret is that there was no option for genocide. I mean, good ol' fashioned genocide. I want lebensraum, not a piece of rock that glows at night.

WWWP 05-14-2015 11:52 PM

****, my economy is in the ****ter and the only hope I have of fixing it at the moment is to sell weapons to a tyrant.

The Batlord 05-14-2015 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1589500)
****, my economy is in the ****ter and the only hope I have of fixing it at the moment is to sell weapons to a tyrant.

Don't worry, I'll give you a good price on them. Just cause I like you.

The Batlord 05-16-2015 07:20 AM

Having a couple of problems with my country. Namely, conservation and religion.

The "Blood and Soil" policies of Nazi Germany were all about ruralism and the environment, to venerate their ancestors, which works for The Luxurious Beard of Odin, as we're all about that, but balancing that with industry and the economy is a bitch, and I've generally chosen economy over the environment, so I need to fix that.

And since my country is strictly pagan, and is attempting to eradicate Christianity, it's a problem, since there aren't, or at least I haven't received, any issues giving me the option to promote paganism (at least none that wouldn't have supported new agey, hippy movements). Most religious issues seem to be centered around Christianity, which I of course rule against, and this has led to my country being unintentionally atheist for the most part. This will not do.

I've generally looked to Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany when deciding issues, but they aren't much help when it comes to religion. There weren't any policies or rhetoric in Italy about rejuvenating the old Roman religion, and the influence of the Catholic Church in that country meant that Mussolini had to cooperate with the Pope, even though he was an atheist. Not helpful.

And while the Nazis may have had some pagan leanings, this was almost entirely by individual members, like Himmler, involved in neopagan secret societies. Hitler actually outlawed such organizations, as he was worried that they might undermine the government, and was himself never involved in any of them. He may or may not have been an atheist, but his actual religious beliefs seem to be unclear. His relationship with Christianity seems to have been one of political pragmatism: he tried to Nazify the churches, but in general let them be, so long as they didn't involve themselves in politics. He definitely didn't support neopaganism though. So, still not helpful.

Isbjørn 05-21-2015 06:01 AM

http://s22.postimg.org/979vxz90h/icky_dead_bird.png

It should be like this in every civilized country.

Mondo Bungle 06-12-2015 02:40 PM

Leading causes of death in Grimfrost

Old age: 80.8 %
Lost in wilderness: 16.4%
Acts of God: 1.4%
Basilisk attack: 1.4%

Frownland 06-12-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1601396)
Acts of God: 1.4%
Basilisk attack: 1.4%

[insert atheism joke here]

The Batlord 07-04-2015 08:13 PM

You know, it just occurred to me that I have absolutely no idea whether or not the fascist region my nation is located in is satirical or not. I'm too lazy to participate with the rest of my Nazi neighbors, so I have no idea one way or the other, but I technically can't be sure that they aren't some straight up Stormfront mother****ers. I don't know how to feel about this.

Yac 07-08-2015 07:42 AM

I used to play this... long ago... This is the only trace of my utopian island society :D I remember being proud of managing to keep an "excellent" economy with everything else being "very good" or better.

  • Former nation AquaLibria
    Founded: Wed Nov 26 2008
    Ceased to exist: Wed Jul 6 2011
    Population: 947 million
I assume a lot changed since 2011 ?

The Batlord 07-08-2015 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Yac (Post 1612027)
I used to play this... long ago... This is the only trace of my utopian island society :D I remember being proud of managing to keep an "excellent" economy with everything else being "very good" or better.

  • Former nation AquaLibria
    Founded: Wed Nov 26 2008
    Ceased to exist: Wed Jul 6 2011
    Population: 947 million
I assume a lot changed since 2011 ?

Well, I don't know how many changes they made when you were playing (I first started around '03-'04) but in the decade since I stopped playing they've added about a million new issues -- after about a month you pretty much used them all up back in the day -- and now you can actually look at all the stats of your country (economy, environment, civil rights, etc). They also didn't have capital cities, leader names, or national religions either.

The regions seem to have become more sophisticated. My current one has all sorts of resources to educate you on fascism, along with its own forum and anthem on Youtube.

Yac 07-09-2015 04:15 AM

Well, as it turns out I could reanimate my old country
NationStates | The Free Land of AquaLibria
Though it seems I've been playing it wrong - everybody wants to make their country as funny, unique or shocking as possible where I just wanted a country I'd like to live in.
I have to say I'm somewhat impressed with how well it's been going despite all the compromises I had to make. Or silly answers I had to give because there were no sensible options to choose ;)

The Batlord 07-09-2015 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Yac (Post 1612554)
Well, as it turns out I could reanimate my old country
NationStates | The Free Land of AquaLibria
Though it seems I've been playing it wrong - everybody wants to make their country as funny, unique or shocking as possible where I just wanted a country I'd like to live in.
I have to say I'm somewhat impressed with how well it's been going despite all the compromises I had to make. Or silly answers I had to give because there were no sensible options to choose ;)

If your country's so great, then why is the average income in mine 30,000 more than yours? Sonned.


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