Definitely after.

He was sick, yes, but he was also very controlled, very much aware of what he was capable of. I don't think for a second that he was ruled by his mental illness.

One thing I'll give you, Bats, you know how to cheer a fellow up. :laughing:

Already know the story of Jack the Ripper (and his 20th century namesake) inside out.

Then Bundy should be your next stop. Might not be as outrageous as some, but his story is the gold standard of mass murderers. 9/10

I just realized how much easier Facebook can make serial killing. You can threaten to kill all of someone's friends and family and get them to do all the work.

5.2 for sheer laziness .Put some effort into it.

Bundy is a 10/10 for me. Love what the judge said to him at his sentencing.

"It is ordered that you be put to death by a current of electricity, that current be passed through your body until you are dead. Take care of yourself, young man. I say that to you sincerely; take care of yourself, please. It is an utter tragedy for this court to see such a total waste of humanity as I've experienced in this courtroom. You're a bright young man. You'd have made a good lawyer, and I would have loved to have you practice in front of me, but you went another way, partner. Take care of yourself. I don't feel any animosity toward you. I want you to know that. Once again, take care of yourself."

I take off a point just because bludgeoning and then strangulation seem kind of pedestrian. Everything else is flawless though. Mega props. :dj:

Ted Bundy has always been interesting for me as well. In terms of what I would do? Probably the "build a death house" thing. Then I'd capture people and hide them in the walls for them to die slowly. There was a movie like that but I can't remember the name. Anyway, I'd get a kick out of hearing my victims scream for their lives in the walls of my home. Plus, human corpses will let me save money on insulation.

Sounds like Edgar Allen Poe's Cask of Amontillado.