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Old 03-04-2015, 03:27 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Drone metal to me sounds like slowed down grunge
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Well the first drone metal band, Earth, actually came from the Seattle music scene at the same time as grunge, so it basically is -- the band leader of Earth actually gave Kurt Cobain the shotgun that he killed himself with! They were influenced by all the pre-grunge stuff like Flipper, the Melvins, and My War-era Black Flag rather than doom metal.

It became a metal genre after metal bands like Sunn O))) and Boris basically picked up where Earth left off. So yeah, at first drone "metal" was actually a one band alternative rock genre (though Skullflower were also doing kind of the same thing around the time they released The IIIrd Gatekeeper, and also came from experimental rock rather than metal; their earlier stuff was some pretty wild industrial/noise music that had nothing at all to do with metal in the same way that Swans didn't.)







Earth actually broke up when their band leader went to jail for drug charges (I think), and when he got out he started the band back up, but had gotten all spiritual in the meantime, so he stopped all the ultra-depressing Sabbathy drone to play more "uplifting" drone with a weird-but-awesome country influence.




Then you've got the bands they inspired. Earth really didn't start any musical revolution at first though, as they were too obscure and inaccessible for a lot of the indie kids to get into (I'm assuming), and since they weren't part of metal I guess most metalheads just weren't aware of them. Then Sunn O))) and Boris basically blew the genre wide open when they opened it up to all the headbangers.




Amazing collaboration between Sunn O))) and Boris.



Not a band to start your drone metal journey with if you're an indie nerd, but if you're already down the rabbit hole...




Even if you don't dig drone metal you might still fall in love with some of Boris' other music. They were always an eclectic band and, except for their debut, even their drone albums had a lot of really different sounds that had little if nothing to do with drone metal. They actually probably play even more stoner rock/metal than they do drone, even releasing a really weird J-Pop album a few years ago (they're Japanese, hence their weirdness).

Some stoner noise rock gloriousness.



And if you've ever wondered what My Bloody Valentine would sound like if they decided to go drone then here you go. And yes, both of these songs are off the same album (Pink). And no, these are not the two oddest departures off the album.

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Old 03-04-2015, 03:54 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:09 PM   #93 (permalink)
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It's because i necromanced marvin into existence to piss on him but i felt a little guilty about keeping him as my representation. so i mean i'm not as bad as it gets
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except I'm much more misanthropic in person.
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:52 PM   #95 (permalink)
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I think the main issue with people who aren't well-versed in certain genres is that they haven't developed the ear or the experience to tell the difference. To me, death metal like Suffocation sounds nothing like black metal such as Mayhem.

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I can understand a non-metal initiate not being able to tell the difference, but to me the differences are totally obvious. I would almost never confuse '90s black metal with '90s death metal (Though certain bands did still take influences from both genres.)

Another thing you have to understand is that many of these genres (like thrash, black, death, and grindcore) evolved at the same time, and were influenced by many of the same bands in the eighties. Bands like Sodom played what is often called early black metal at first, but then "evolved" into a thrash metal band, while also having elements of what would become death metal. Before the genres really branched out in the '90s there could be only slight differences, mainly in their approach and what scene they happened to be a part of.

Early Sodom




Later Sodom




Thrash metal was heavily influenced by certain scenes, especially in New York and San Fransisco, with bands being "shown what to do" by groups that loosely defined the sounds of their respective areas. While black metal was very much a central and Scandinavian phenomenon due to bands like Celtic Frost, Bathory, and Venom who wouldn't have had as much influence in America simply due to geographical distance making cross-pollination less of an issue.

The aforementioned Sodom was German, along with scene mates like Kreator and Destruction. And since they were physically closer to Bathory (Sweden), Celtic Frost (Switzerland), Mercyful Fate (Denmark), and Venom (Britain) they had much more early black metal influence than the American bands.

But they were also developing a sound that was evolving around the same time period, and so there were still similarities (Especially after American thrash become so big, around which time the German bands started playing much more traditionally thrash music.)

So yeah, distinguishing certain strains of metal can be difficult at first, -- with certain sub-genre labels having been given in hindsight largely down to the bands and scenes they influenced the most -- and the earlier the bands the harder it is to draw decisive boundaries. Often early thrash/black/and death metal can almost be interchangeable, but over time the divisions became much more relevant.

Take an early black metal band like Sarcofago. They had a huge influence on Norwegian black metal (which was basically the scene which finally set black metal apart as its own separate genre), but they are just as much of a thrash band and early death metal band.





I'm sure you'd agree that indie genres like indie folk, dream pop, shoegaze, noise rock, etc can be hard to differentiate when you're not familiar with them due to their similar influences, but once you've put in the time listening to those genres the differences become much more apparent. (I listed those genres in order of differences, as obviously it's pretty easy to tell the difference between indie folk and noise rock).
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Personally I thought that a pretty concise post.
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Personally I thought that a pretty concise post.
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No wonder Drone metal sounded familiar, the guitars reminded me of the draggy nirvana songs i used to skip on my cd player



It's not as heavy but the guitar tempo and vibe is kinda similar.
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I totally missed this whole thread.

I'm a very nice person irl unless....

1. I'm with my best friends.
2. I'm in the car.
3. I smoke weed. My sarcasm is off the charts when I smoke.
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