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The Batlord 10-21-2014 04:06 PM

It didn't ruin the Borg. They were still terrifying. I never found myself thinking afterward, "Aw, but if only we could all just sit down and have tea and crumpets, then this could all be settled." And I see nothing wrong with showing that there was a possible human element to them. They were sentient beings at one point, in some form, so there's nothing wrong with giving them a little more depth. I could agree that a more serious study might have been better, but it was still a fun episode.

GuD 06-01-2015 11:12 PM

This thread was fun, I miss it.

I was inspired by CM and the Bat to look around and see if something like this existed-- it does! Checkit:
Online Alignment Test

I got...

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Neutral Good

A neutral good character does the best that a good person can do. He is devoted to helping others. He works with kings and magistrates but does not feel beholden to them. The common phrase for neutral good is "true good." Neutral good is the best alignment you can be because it means doing what is good without bias toward or against order.

The Batlord 06-01-2015 11:31 PM

^^^

Apparently I'm just neutral. Not good, not evil, not lawful, not chaotic, just neutral.

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Neutral

A neutral character does what seems to be a good idea. She doesn’t feel strongly one way or the other when it comes to good vs. evil or law vs. chaos. Most neutrality is a lack of conviction or bias rather than a commitment to neutrality. Such a character thinks of good as better than evil. After all, she would rather have good neighbors and rulers than evil ones. Still, she’s not personally committed to upholding good in any abstract or universal way. Some neutral characters, on the other hand, commit themselves philosophically to neutrality. They see good, evil, law, and chaos as prejudices and dangerous extremes. They advocate the middle way of neutrality as the best, most balanced road in the long run. The common phrase for neutral is "true neutral." Neutral is the best alignment you can be because it means you act naturally, without prejudice or compulsion.

Sounds about right.

Frownland 06-01-2015 11:31 PM

You got neutral good and it used male pronouns, I got neutral evil and it used female pronouns. I guess bitches are evil after all. And us neutral bitches are the most evil mother****ers you'll ever meet.

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Neutral Evil

A neutral evil villain does whatever she can get away with. She is out for herself, pure and simple. She sheds no tears for those she kills, whether for profit, sport, or convenience. She has no love of order and holds no illusion that following laws, traditions, or codes would make her any better or more noble. On the other hand, she doesn’t have the restless nature or love of conflict that a chaotic evil villain has. The criminal who robs and murders to get what she wants is neutral evil. Some neutral evil villains hold up evil as an ideal, committing evil for its own sake. Most often, such villains are devoted to evil deities or secret societies. The common phrase for neutral evil is "true evil." Neutral evil is the most dangerous alignment because it represents pure evil without honor and without variation.

GuD 06-01-2015 11:33 PM

People should really get into the habit of writing they instead of s/he when neutrality is needed.

Frownland 06-01-2015 11:34 PM

"S/he," "he/she," or "(s)he" works though. At least it makes grammatical sense.

GuD 06-01-2015 11:36 PM

Not really, some people experience dysphoria from both of those pronouns. As far as I'm aware they is the only completely neutral pronoun. Unless you don't mind being a jerk... which... judging from your results... also I don't think they is grammatically incorrect in those situations. Either way, it's the only fair word to say.

Frownland 06-01-2015 11:42 PM

If I would refer to you in the third person as "they", it wouldn't make any sense since "they" refers to more than one person. Hopefully people who are in the minority that don't quite identify due to true dysphoria will understand since most people don't even consider that **** and maybe they're not the centre of the universe that dictates how people speak. People who have "dysphoria" just because it's trendy on tumblr should understand as well, but we both know that being understanding is the last thing that those types are capable of.

tl;dr grammar>feelings

GuD 06-02-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1597225)
If I would refer to you in the third person as "they", it wouldn't make any sense since "they" refers to more than one person.

I think the concept is that a gender-neutral term term is needed for people who don't like "she" or "he", and "they" has become that term. Words change meanings over time, you know. That's how language works.

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Hopefully people who are in the minority that don't quite identify due to true dysphoria will understand since most people don't even consider that **** and maybe they're not the centre of the universe that dictates how people speak.
I don't think you realize how callus you're being. You're basically saying that people who don't want to be called "he" or "she" should just deal with it because they're a minority. These people just want to be respected, they're not asking to be the center of the universe. Wouldn't you want to correct someone if they called you she? Wouldn't it bother you if that was something you had to do very regularly?

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People who have "dysphoria" just because it's trendy on tumblr should understand as well, but we both know that being understanding is the last thing that those types are capable of.
What are you talking about? Why does it matter where someone finds out about dysphoria? Do you realize how great it is to have a resource like that that speaks to how people feel when there might not be anything or anyone else that does? And who the **** are you to question the validity of someone else's experiences? I'm not saying people don't make **** up, but wouldn't you rather just go with it and be wrong than not go with it and potentially hurt someone? If someone says they're experiencing something, at the very least they're considering what it's like to experience it. That's a lot more than what you appear to be doing here so far-- all making assumptions and acting like you know better about what people feel than they do-- and it's not the first time I've seen you do this. And what do you mean by "those types"? What are you trying to insinuate?


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tl;dr grammar>feelings
tl;dr you're being a jerk, words can mean new things if the need arises.

The Batlord 06-02-2015 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1597231)
I think the concept is that a gender-neutral term term is needed for people who don't like "she" or "he", and "they" has become that term. Words change meanings over time, you know. That's how language works.

What about "it"? That's pretty gender neutral.


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