Originally Posted by Christian Benteke
(Post 1377764)
Golf is good to play and I like the clothes. Very smart.
Are you saying that you would sit at home and watch a Golf tournament on tv though?
I don't think we are talking about playing it.
Cuthbert
10-27-2013 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
(Post 1377821)
Not to mention, English teams who claim to be the best in the world (Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc) all test themselves by going up against non-English clubs and usually failing, but at least they're providing a measurement of their skill by comparing it to like. What do baseball teams do? Oh, Cincinnati is better than New York? Boston can kick Minneapolis's arse? You're still all American! And if you don't have any team outside of America to test yourselves against, you cannot claim to be or have the best players in the world, just in the USA. QED.
Quality post.
Highlighted bit made me do a lol.
It really is stupid to be honest. La Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A & our Premier League are all multinational, if Barça or Aston Villa win their respective leagues are they now world champions, because there are several nationalities in their squad?
It's all a bit :o:.
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Originally Posted by djchameleon
(Post 1377822)
Are you saying that you would sit at home and watch a Golf tournament on tv though?
I don't think we are talking about playing it.
Na I wouldn't. I've never done it. It's too slow. Hours and hours of coverage for that one second you strike the ball.
John Wilkes Booth
10-27-2013 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke
(Post 1377663)
So? I've played hockey, it's not that hard to learn to skate on ice. I remember the first time I went to an ice rink, after about 20 mins I was fine.
Try kicking a ball from 25 yards out into the goal at pace, controlling it in the air etc.
Just saying. You really think pushing a puck around on ice with a stick comes more naturally than kicking a ball around on land? Yea you can learn to play hockey at a mediocre level pretty quick just like I used to play soccer when I was in 4th grade.
Janszoon
10-27-2013 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
(Post 1377821)
Yeah I know Jansz. I just meant it's mainly played in the US and even if it's popular in those countries that still doesn't qualify the US players being seen as the best in the world. They're the best in America, and that's it. World Series me arse!
Well, like I said, I agree that the name of the World Series is silly.
Cuthbert
10-27-2013 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
(Post 1377825)
Just saying. You really think pushing a puck around on ice with a stick comes more naturally than kicking a ball around on land? Yea you can learn to play hockey at a mediocre level pretty quick just like I used to play soccer when I was in 4th grade.
Pushing a puck with your hands yeah. It's not that hard to learn to skate. It's like learning to swim tbh.
It's not that hard to learn to swim but water polo is still harder for the fact that it's played in the water.
butthead aka 216
10-27-2013 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
(Post 1377821)
Yeah I know Jansz. I just meant it's mainly played in the US and even if it's popular in those countries that still doesn't qualify the US players being seen as the best in the world. They're the best in America, and that's it. World Series me arse!
As for 216, why do you think I'm validating your argument? I'm not; I'm destroying it. You can't have a "world series" if the world is not involved. Think there's a world series of curling? Or eskimo fish-catching? Or Peruvian jungle snake-throwing championships? Jeez man: listen to the logic willya? :rolleyes: Football isn't even that arrogant: the Premiership is seen and acknowledged as the best league in the world, but it has La Liga (Spain) Bundeslige (Germany) Seria A (Italy) and others to measure itself against. And even then, English footballers, though there may be some of them that are the best in the world, do not all consider themselves so. We all know Messi Ronaldo et al are usually better than most of what England can produce. Not to mention, English teams who claim to be the best in the world (Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc) all test themselves by going up against non-English clubs and usually failing, but at least they're providing a measurement of their skill by comparing it to like. What do baseball teams do? Oh, Cincinnati is better than New York? Boston can kick Minneapolis's arse? You're still all American! And if you don't have any team outside of America to test yourselves against, you cannot claim to be or have the best players in the world, just in the USA. QED.
the structure of the leagues are much different. theres a massive talent gap between major league baseball and any other league. there is no legit challenger. like i said it doesnt bother me if there is a world series of curling or whatever example yu wanna use. if all of the worlds best players play in that league and its head and shoulders above any other league, then so be it
Goofle
10-27-2013 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke
(Post 1377829)
Pushing a puck with your hands yeah. It's not that hard to learn to skate. It's like learning to swim tbh.
Originally Posted by butthead aka 216
(Post 1377834)
the structure of the leagues are much different. theres a massive talent gap between major league baseball and any other league. there is no legit challenger. like i said it doesnt bother me if there is a world series of curling or whatever example yu wanna use. if all of the worlds best players play in that league and its head and shoulders above any other league, then so be it
Still not getting it. You can't call them the world's best players when they're all from the one country and only that one plays the game at any sort of top level. Do US teams ever take on any outside --- and by outside I mean outside the USA --- competition? If not, then you're not the world's best, just America's best. Big difference. But you seem blinkered and will not see it. Fine. I can't spell it out any more clearly than this:
The world (noun): Our planet, made up of various landmasses, on which are separate countries. Between these landmasses are seas, oceans etc.
America (United States of) (noun): One landmass, one of the largest in the World (see above)
Maybe Big Bird can explain it. Imagine the big bowl as American football (or America) and the others as "European" football, or even just the rest of the world...
butthead aka 216
10-27-2013 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
(Post 1377842)
Still not getting it. You can't call them the world's best players when they're all from the one country and only that one plays the game at any sort of top level. Do US teams ever take on any outside --- and by outside I mean outside the USA --- competition? If not, then you're not the world's best, just America's best. Big difference. But you seem blinkered and will not see it. Fine. I can't spell it out any more clearly.
The world (noun): Our planet, made up of various landmasses, on which are separate countries. Between these landmasses are seas, oceans etc.
America (United States of) (noun): One landmass, one of the largest in the World (see above)
Maybe Big Bird can explain it. Imagine the big bowl as American football (or America) and the others as "European" football, or even just the rest of the world...
appreciate the sarcasm lol
there is the world baseball classic which is a tournament between countries. but its kinda pointless and not really cared about here lol.
for the bolded part i think if they are americas best then by default they are the worlds best. it would make no sense to go play the japanese league or somethin like that cause nobody is arguin anyone is better than the baseball played here
