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Old 10-26-2013, 05:07 PM   #101 (permalink)
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That doesn't mean the passion doesn't exist. It's just expressed differently. Hockey fans are incredibly passionate about the sport. People go to great lengths expressing support for their favourite teams. I'm sure the same can be said for association football.
We aren't discussing that.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:11 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Sorry, but when do you see fans of those sorts screaming for minutes, hugging the person next to them and going absolutely bat-shit mental after every single point?

I am aware other sports exist, and enjoy many of them, but Football is simply the best sport I have ever watched.
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Green Street? That's not accurate at all , I go to games regularly myself, that kind of stuff was commonplace in the 70s and 80s, it doesn't happen so much now. That film was embarrassing Londoners playing up to the camera (obviously). 'Firms' are fucking cringe worthy.

You get maybe two or three incidents a year and certainly not at a club like Arsenal which is the team Goofle supports.

Places like Turkey, Italy or Argentina I'd say it's more common..
Yep, that's it. Green Street Hooligans. I was just taking the piss though didn't you see my last line about movies being real life?
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:15 PM   #103 (permalink)
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That posts supports my view lol I have no interest in hooliganism.

And even from a pure aesthetic point of view, football is the best sport. And the hardest to master.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:16 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Yep, that's it. Green Street Hooligans. I was just taking the piss though didn't you see my last line about movies being real life?
I thought it was a serious comment .

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Old 10-26-2013, 05:25 PM   #105 (permalink)
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They're good points. And no, I'm not trying to bait anyone: I don't do that. My point is against the argument that DJ put forward, that because AMERICANS don't like football (our football) then it by default has to be bad. That's totally arrogant. I freely admit I know little of basketball or baseball, and as you say it may indeed be played outside of the US but it is not a world sport. Just about every country (US included) plays football, even if it only comes to the fore at times like the World Cup. American football by comparison is a niche, insular sport, cared about only by Americans and probably a small percentage of people outside the US, mostly those who watch every sport --- darts, F1, tennis, badminton, rugby, soccer, GAA, boxing etc. Few people outside the US care specifically about AF: it's just another to add to the lists of the sports they watch.
I'm not talking about football. You said baseball and basketball weren't watched or played by people outside America and that's not true. I forgot to mention Chinese basketball--that's where Yao Ming came from. And South Koreans are nuts about baseball. There have been a few of them in the MLB. Hee Sop Choi comes to mind. Oh, and Shin Soo Choo also.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:33 PM   #106 (permalink)
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That posts supports my view lol I have no interest in hooliganism.

And even from a pure aesthetic point of view, football is the best sport. And the hardest to master.
Soccer? Completely disagree. A quarterback needs to trsin so much more than any soccer player
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:38 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Sorry, but when do you see fans of those sorts screaming for minutes, hugging the person next to them and going absolutely bat-shit mental after every single point?

You just defined "passion" right there ^^, so that is exactly what was being discussed.

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I'm not talking about football. You said baseball and basketball weren't watched or played by people outside America and that's not true. I forgot to mention Chinese basketball--that's where Yao Ming came from. And South Koreans are nuts about baseball. There have been a few of them in the MLB. Hee Sop Choi comes to mind. Oh, and Shin Soo Choo also.
I think baseball is pretty big in Japan too, and it's huge in the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and Nicaragua (in fact, it's their national sport). It's no wonder that half the players in the MLB are from those countries.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:40 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I think baseball is pretty big in Japan too, and it's huge in the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and Nicaragua (in fact, it's their national sport). It's no wonder that half the players in the MLB are from those countries.
Yes, I mentioned that. I didn't mention Cuba or Nicaragua but, yes, baseball is HUGE there. The Tigers have always had Venezuelan players since I was a boy and they still have them. And on the roster are all these Hispanic players: Cabrera, Martinez, Infante, Santiago, Peralta, Veras, Pena, Benoit, Albuquerque, Tuiasossopo, Avila.
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Yeah. That all stemmed from a comment DJ made about the fact/belief that because Americans don't think much of football it can't be that popular. I then went on to explain that basketball, baseball etc are not popular outside the US. Perhaps I should have said AS POPULAR, but surely you know what I meant? Just because one section of the world --- even if it is USA --- sees something as not being their thing does not mean the other 95% of the planet doesn't.

Anyway, we ARE talking about football: check the thread title.

On another note, I love how the Batlord lobbed this grenade and then legged it to leave us all fighting in the trenches while he laughs at us from the Batcave!
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:39 PM   #110 (permalink)
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There's actually a whole Wikipedia page devoted to football fan hooliganism. Football hooliganism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, right. You guys don't fight like Americans do over the outcome of a game. I forgot it's all rainbows and sunshine and unicorns.
For the love of God! I'm not suggesting violence doesn't happen in games but is is very much in the minority, hated by the real fans and a thing the FA are trying to stamp out, though of course they never will.

My point was against DJ's contention that violence was what made the game good, which is about as stupid a thing I've heard him say. If I misheard or misread then I apologise, but I'm pretty sure that's what he maintained.

Edit: No, pretty sure that's what you get from this comment...
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Those are the kind of fans that Goofle loves the bat shit mental ones that love to see fights and what makes the sport he loves so great.
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