Rape - Whose Fault Is It?

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

^a little? It changes it entirely. You would actually call it rape if both parties agreed that it was ok? Even if it was random occasions that it happened?

No I wouldn't call it rape because the situation changed

Key · 03-17-2017, 02:23 PM

Well you implied differently with your use of "changes a little". Implying that there's still an argument for rape to have occured.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Well you implied differently with your use of "changes a little". Implying that there's still an argument for rape to have occured.

Potentially, yes. But not when both parties have agreed because that's stupid. Read my post.

For someone who keeps shouting about gray areas, you're trying to paint things a little black and white right now.

Key · 03-17-2017, 02:27 PM

If I am being black and white, it's not purposefully. I'm basing the accusations of rape on those grey areas as was displayed with DWV's post. Obviously it's all based on situation. But I've also said that I agree with your statements just not entirely.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

If I am being black and white, it's not purposefully. I'm basing the accusations of rape on those grey areas as was displayed with DWV's post. Obviously it's all based on situation. But I've also said that I agree with your statements just not entirely.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Implying that there's still an argument for rape to have occured.

The fact you think that this is somehow wrong sounds like a black and white approach to me.

DwnWthVwls · 03-17-2017, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Teetering a fine line, be careful.

If there's some precedent for that kind of thing in a relationship, like you know it's your girl's kink or something, then the situation changes a little.

Ofc, I wouldn't do it if she wasn't comfortable with it, and I definitely wouldn't do that with just anyone. I'm just giving examples and asking questions, that hopefully create some discussion, instead of Frown/Ki banter.

DwnWthVwls · 03-17-2017, 02:37 PM

I'm offended that youre offended.

Key · 03-17-2017, 02:39 PM

Let me throw out a situation then and we can discuss it further:

My ex and I were drinking, one obviously more drunk, and we had sex that night. Neither said whether they wanted it or not, it just happened. However I know that drinking can be a factor, is that rape? Drinking can alter your judgement therefore having an effect on whether you can say no or yes.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 02:45 PM

Depends, was he too drunk to form words? If yes: RAPE

Key · 03-17-2017, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Depends, was he too drunk to form words? If yes: RAPE

Ok.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Rape is not a subject to play devil's advocate with

It's also not a for sure conclusion in all cases so...

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03-17-2017, 02:45 PM	#249 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Depends, was he too drunk to form words? If yes: RAPE __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-17-2017, 02:23 PM	#242 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Well you implied differently with your use of "changes a little". Implying that there's still an argument for rape to have occured.

03-17-2017, 02:27 PM	#244 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	If I am being black and white, it's not purposefully. I'm basing the accusations of rape on those grey areas as was displayed with DWV's post. Obviously it's all based on situation. But I've also said that I agree with your statements just not entirely.

03-17-2017, 02:39 PM	#248 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Let me throw out a situation then and we can discuss it further: My ex and I were drinking, one obviously more drunk, and we had sex that night. Neither said whether they wanted it or not, it just happened. However I know that drinking can be a factor, is that rape? Drinking can alter your judgement therefore having an effect on whether you can say no or yes.