Guybrush

Well, I still disagree with you. If you say no, then it's no. Him being drunk does not give him the rights to do what he wants to your body. If you hit someone while drunk driving, you may have done something you wouldn't do while sober, but it's not like it's gonna get you any slack! We hold people accountable, even if they're drunk.

But, considering the situation, I would understand it if you didn't feel like ruining his life over it by reporting it to the police.

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Paedantic Basterd

You've touched on something here that I'd tried to speak about earlier in the thread: If a drunken woman says "yes", the fact that she's drunk may invalidate her consent, however, a drunken man is guilty regardless.

Clearly this is not an equal standard, and I am interested in hearing how we justify it.

EDIT: I apologise if I seem insensitive to your posts, Misspoptart. That's not my intent. If you'd rather I not start this discussion, I'll gladly and respectfully remove my post. Or alternatively, someone has permission to remove it for me if I have gone to work.

Newkie

Yup, definitely interested in that topic, if people are ok with that line of discussion anyway.

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Cuthbert

It's bollocks.

If a drunk man is responsible for his actions then so should the rape victim be (if they've actually consented but were pissed as a fart but this is difficult to prove.) And how do you determine 'drunk'? Is 3 pints drunk? 4, 5, 6 etc. And drink effects people in different ways. There's just no way you can be consistent with this.

The whole thing is a massive grey area though and you're essentially trying to prove one person's word against another's and in what is predominantly a crime with no witnesses other than those involved there will always be miscarriages of justice.

Ultimately, if you're a man and you sleep with a woman who's been drinking and you don't know her, you're a stupid cunt even if she's consented. You know what the law is like and if you don't want to be charged with rape, you take the necessary precautions to ensure that doesn't happen. It's shit but that's how it is.