Originally Posted by Qwertyy

right, yeah just because it's exaggerated doesn't make it a non-issue. a clear understanding of what consensual and non-consensual sex should be common knowledge for everyone.

it seems that whenever the topic comes up you either have conservatives who believe every woman to ever claim rape is a liar and people on the other side who will always side with the accuser. the reality is that both sides happen (albeit one much more than the other, that we can all agree on im sure) and it's clear that we need to have a better understanding as a society of what exactly constitutes sexual assault, rape, sexual harassment etc.

there's nothing wrong with what Ki said, although he could have certainly worded it better. you were just looking to start an argument to make him look like some sort of victim blamer.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

right, yeah just because it's exaggerated doesn't make it a non-issue. a clear understanding of what consensual and non-consensual sex should be common knowledge for everyone.

Originally Posted by Kiiii

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming. I said in situations of rape, it's possible for the victim to be either the man or woman, or neither. I also said that if neither person tries to stop it, they cannot be a victim. You can't just call it rape if you regret it the next day.

That example of them sleeping is a poor one since I'm pretty sure, given the crcumstance, the person would wake up and attempt to stop it.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd vote for Trump

Originally Posted by Kiiii

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming. I said in situations of rape, it's possible for the victim to be either the man or woman, or neither. I also said that if neither person tries to stop it, they cannot be a victim. You can't just call it rape if you regret it the next day.

That example of them sleeping is a poor one since I'm pretty sure, given the crcumstance, the person would wake up and attempt to stop it.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Kiiii

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming.

Originally Posted by Kiiii

You['re as big of a problem for letting it happen as the person doing it..

Originally Posted by Kiiii

B]you aren't allowed to play the victim card.[/B]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think the point here was that sometimes women(possibly many under special circumstances) may be too overwhelmed or scared to stop it from happening. I think realistically consent is more than just letting something happen.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Did you get bored of your new job, and this is why you're seeking validation through trolling? I understand obviously, but trolling a rape thread is still lame.

Originally Posted by Frownland

Right here



This is basically saying that the victims are as bad as a rapist. If you don't think that's victim blaming then I wonder what you would call that



And that too.



Nice. So banging someone when they're asleep is their fault because they shoulda woke up and stopped you?

Originally Posted by Kiiii

Do you...even read posts? The last part is so off the mark that it's actually hilarous.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd vote for Trump