katsy

The US rape culture is appalling. We joke about it, make light of it, and project women as sex objects. This has influenced people; it's created a society in which women are desirable for their bodies. Look at American Apparel-- it's disgusting. And that's the message we send to our youth. Women are objects of sexual desire. If she's dressed in a provocative/sexy way she must want it. F*ck that.

We teach young girls not to get raped. Why the f*ck don't we teach little boys NOT to rape? Society is the problem: victim blaming, slut shaming, it's all wrapped up in one big ball of f**cked-upness.

This video is long-ish, but it's good.

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Cuthbert

I joke about rape too, but then I joke about schizophrenia even though my dad has it. Nothing wrong with rape jokes.

Err, because it's fucking stupid? Men are not rapists, rapists are rapists.

Some people treat rape as if it's similar to crimes like stealing, we all do it a bit, everybody will steal if they know they can get away with it, the solution society uses to stop this sort of criminal behaviour is punishment and humiliation, that works well to stop people committing crimes everybody commits.

The problem is that rape is not a crime everybody will commit. The typical approach to rape is to treat it like cheating, lying or stealing. Assume that everybody will do it under the right circumstances i.e. assume all men are potential rapists so teach men not to rape . Prevent it using humiliation and punishment i.e. telling people how terrible it is to rape and how everybody will despise them and put them in prison.

Saying you should teach men not to rape is basically saying we are all inherently rapists, so not only is it ridiculously stupid it's also incredibly offensive.

katsy

I would advise you to do the research on rape in the US and the causes.

The society we live in has women portrayed as sex objects for men, in most cases. Rape is a gendered crime. The majority of victims are females, the majority of rapists are men. Rape in the U. S. is regulated not prohibited. Men are not punished for rape and women are not encouraged to resist rapists. Although there are laws against rape rarely are perpetrators charged or convicted. According to a national survey, the Rape in America study, only 16% of rapes are reported to police.

What does this teach? That rape is the norm. Well, boys are doing the raping because society is basically saying it's okay. We have socialized sexual aggression!

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Cuthbert

Rapists already know rape is wrong. Telling them it's wrong is not going to stop them.

Rape is not 'the norm', most normal guys are not going to rape a girl if she really resists.

katsy

Well, we disagree. I live in a world where girls are raised to be passive, demure, submissive, and meek. Boys are raised to be dominant, powerful, assertive. Just last month a man was touting a book that basically advocated rape as a way to pick up women. From the proposed book: if she says no, she really means try harder. be dominant, women like that
It goes on and gets worse. WTF? and this was gaining popularity! That teaches men to rape.

Really resists? Wow. So I guess "no" isn't good enough anymore. You're proving my point for me.

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Cuthbert

Don't talk shite.

katsy

Here's a link about the above mentioned book project. It's sad and says a lot about our culture and society.
Redditor's PUA Kickstarter Project Recommends Sexual Assault

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katsy

I don't see how pointing out your own assertion that as long as women "resist" enough they won't be raped is talking ****. But if you see it that way, I'm sorry.

Regardless of our disagreement: Rape is abhorrent.

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Cuthbert

Fucking hell have you actually read those quotes?

Yeah, that's teaching men to rape. I'm gonna read the book then start putting my knob in a load of women's hands who I don't even know.

Step into the real world please.

Saying no is resisting.

Agree.

butthead aka 216

i have no respect for people like katsy if im interpreting her/his posts correctly. sounds like you got a general problem with men or someting