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View Poll Results: How many more lectures will Vegangelica make?
1 3 17.65%
6,000 1 5.88%
26 0 0%
458 1 5.88%
Twelve 0 0%
2 0 0%
43 3 17.65%
155 0 0%
1 million 4 23.53%
Too many 5 29.41%
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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And that's why she's mostly valued as a member here.


I do agree with the mods though, sometimes vege can almost be too nice and jumps to the rescue of members who don't need/deserve the help.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I love Erica and admire her so much for her very genuine kindness, tremendous intellect, and her willingness to go to bat for the underdog time and time again. I have never seen Erica exchange harsh words with anyone here. Surely that is something we should all respect. When I think of Erica, my mind always automatically goes to the Henry James quote, “Three things in human life are important: the first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind.” It doesn’t cost anything to be nice, you know.
^ This sums up how I feel about VEGANGELICA, that she makes a very positive contribution here, although, as FETCHER says, I can see that she may occassionally exasperate the mods. And of course, the mods deserve a lot of respect too, which is why I completely disagree with this :-

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I'm an outsider looking in and I'm telling you, this place feels dead to me. It feels like a clique for Urban, Vanilla, Janzoon, Ki, Freebase(the mods basically) and a very few well established members. The rest of us new people can't even get a foothold and frankly don't want to try to establish ourselves in a place like this.
I think slappyjenkins didn`t stay around long enough to work out some of the nuances of MB. I don`t perceive the mods as a clique; they`re a group of individuals who put in a lot of unappreciated effort to maintain the site. For example, Janszoon (being the mod I know best) is fair, friendly, helpful, well-informed and humourous. That`s why he`s respected, slappy - not because he`s part of some clique.

So, like many other MB members, I don`t like to see my friends angry with each other and I`m hoping this drama can be forgotten asap: VEGANGELICA, perhaps you could trust the mods` judgements a bit more readily, and MODS, please cut Erica some slack if she launches a crusade without being fully informed - she`s one of MB`s best.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When I first joined here, back in I think 2008, I moved to the journals section and like a busy little beaver began building. I built myself a little house (not as tiny as Freebase's, but quite small) and half-closed the door, just leaving it open enough for light and the occasional comment to pass through. I was in fact completely insulated and isolated from the rest of the forum. When people began basically slagging me off for not knowing this band or that band, or being into the music I was, I lasted for a short time before getting very hurt and eventually I sold my house, packed up and left, leaving a very emotional and over-the-top farewell note on my door. I feel embarrassed about it even now: what a dweeb!

What I failed to take into account is that people will disagree with you, even laugh at you, but you have to take it in good humour and in the end say, if they don't like my music then **** 'em, I'm not going to stop liking it just cos some anonymous internet presence(s) says or say I should. And so I gave it another go, came back and this time (after a while) ventured out into the main forum, where I began discussing and meeting people, and found this to be a very friendly and on the whole accepting place. I don't have a huge amount of experience in forums (I've joined some to ask a question then left once it was answered) but of the ones I've joined on a more or less permanent basis, I would have no hesitation in saying this is the best and friendliest.

I'd be intrigued to see who these "hundreds of members" Slappy Jenkins refers to are. I've seen I think about three or four, maybe stretch it to up to ten, members who actively complained about either how the place is run or about their personal treatment. 10 out of thousands is not a majority. I think most people who live in the real world as it were have no real problem with the way the forum is run. It seems to be more a personal thing: someone gets upset (rightly or wrongly) and immediately sounds the trumpets, leading all the disaffected into battle (whether they want to go or not!) and making it seem like a problem exist where it doesn't, or where if it does it's a pretty isolated incident they're trying to make a more general thing.

As for Whiskey: he must have sent me dozens of PMs in one week, one day four all at once. One of them was to ask how was it that my journal "Bitesize" was supposed to be a daily update but wasn't? Duh! He really annoyed me though when, after asking me for ideas how he could improve his journal, he then told me my ideas were "terrible". I was quite insulted at that, and told him so. I pointed out that there was no need to be rude, and that I was only trying to help him, which I was under no obligation to do. He responded by sending me a series of PMs, the last of which asked was I sulking because he had called my ideas terrible? He wanted to know if I was being grumpy? WTF? So I told him not to send me any more PMs; I wasn't his friend nor could he, as he seemed to believe he could, monopolise my time and then complain if I didn't respond immediately.

Anyone like to guess what happened next? Yup, he sent me a PM, which I deleted and then put him on "ignore", the first time I'd ever had to do that. But the guy would not be told. I mean, who doesn't understand the clear instruction, "don't send me any more PMs as they'll just be deleted"?

The guy just seems to want all the attention, and also seems to take a perverse delight in being snide and smart particularly to those who give him a chance, which I have to say now I'm sorry I did. Little wanker.
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