Originally Posted by slappyjenkins
I had to come in and say something about this.
I was a very enthusiastic new member back in NOV 2012. I posted everyday. Responded in many threads and started threads, trying to contribute to the community. I think I was treated 'ok' by most. But I have to tell you as an 'outsider' who has no stake in MB, this is a really bad community. It was so startlingly bad that I just had to flush it out of my system and walk away. <---this is from an outsider, please can you guys not understand this?
I can look on MB and easily find hundreds of posts from members(and yes mostly new ones) that ask what is wrong with this place? Why are the moderators so mean and nasty here? Can't they see they stunt the community's growth and enjoyment? <---again words from outsiders looking into your disfunctional little house, but you've refused to listen for 10 years and we know you will not listen now.
I believe a moderator should never have a personal stake in performing their tasks. They should not even be allowed to post insults to the other members, but that's all I see. 'Are you an idiot?' 'Do you understand english?' 'That's stupid!' And a slew of unending insults and tags and icons and pictures that have no purpose but to insult, and bully and intimidate. <---and this is from the MODS!
Can anyone show me where Erica has done anything wrong? Has she cursed at anyone? Has she said bad things? Has she been rude? Has she supported a system of cruelty and immaturity and spitefulness?
I think that's why you guys hate her so much. Because you can never be what she is. You talk about having strength to deal with the internet. You'll never have her strength. She's been dealing with this place for years now and you can't find one post out of thousands from her where she's been mean to anyone. Not even towards those of you that attack her. You can't find one harsh word or malicious action. She has strength none of you will ever develop in your whole lives. (Nor will I.)
You guys can never be what she is. If she sees someone getting bullied on the internet she will stand up for them. If she sees someone getting bullied in real life she would put herself between that person and their attacker like a shield. If she sees someone down on their luck she will pick them up and dust them off and put them back on the right track. It isn't a game or a show to her. It's how she's lived her whole life. Kindness and love and peace to others. It's a way of live not many have the courage or strength or ability to follow. And it eats you guys up inside. You seem to absolutely hate her and you can't even find one word, action, or post where she's done anything but be nice and consistent and helpful.
I think the saddest part of this is....let's take Vanilla for example...if Erica knew you were down on your luck, Vanilla, she'd be the first one to take up for you and help you even as crappy as you have consistently treated her. And I think the part that kills you and Urban, and Janzoon and Burning Down, Freebase and Ki is you all know it too. She is able to do what you can not, which is be consistent in believing that people should be treated with kindness and respect. She would take up for you guys, where you would just as soon spit in her face.
I have never been able to find one single mean word or action from Vegangelica on here, anywhere...thousands of posts, years of contribution. I can look at any one of you and find some snarky, meaningless, unecessary comment in the last HOUR. <---this is why you hate her
And there is nothing any of you can do to corrupt her. MB is a very small part of a rich and varied life she lives, and she's been consistent in all parts of her life.
You set up a 'mock' thread trying to goad her into a fight. And then sit and wait on her, attacking her, laying bait. You attacked her on her love of animals before she ever posted, and you all know how important that is to her. Vanilla and Janszoon you commented on her being on a high horse and how she was probably preparing her post long before she posted. You whine and complain about the job you're doing as MODS. And then you wait like a pack of dogs for Erica to post.
And she posts the nicest, most neutral response you can imagine, and you guys still jumped her ass like a pack of jackals. The first few posts were all from MODS(surprise? no, just what the rest of us expected), trying your best to pick her kind comments apart in some way to bash her.
She even defended the person who told her if she couldn't hack it(the internet) she should go kill herself! She came right in and said she understood it was a misunderstanding and knew he didn't mean it. How many of you would have done the same? (That 'dead' comment upset me greatly, but she handled it perfectly as always.)
I just don't get it guys???? I am an outsider looking in. She's a very nice person. The absolute best in every way. And you guys are often very rude, INSTANTLY rude, and often for no reason. You can't find one thing she's done wrong or one rude comment or word. I can find several from any of you just from today's posts.
I came in just to say how I feel about Erica. She has strength I can't even imagine. I couldn't put up with this place for a month. And she's done it for years. I can't find one single thing she's done to deserve this reaction. You guys jump on her all the time for doing what? Saying, 'Hey we're the established members here, we should be taking care of the new members and others who don't know how things work around here. No need to be rude.'
Really???
If you mods feel you should be allowed to do your job and there are things going on behind the scenes that no one else understands...hey 'what ever helps you sleep at night' is all I can say.
I'm an outsider looking in and I'm telling you, this place feels dead to me. It feels like a clique for Urban, Vanilla, Janzoon, Ki, Freebase(the mods basically) and a very few well established members. The rest of us new people can't even get a foothold and frankly don't want to try to establish ourselves in a place like this.
Erica is one of the very few redeeming aspects of this place.
I can't find a single thing she's done wrong. All I see is kindness and defense of others, thoughtful responses and immense contribution to threads. She's one of the very few 'functional' members of MB!
The way you guys treat her I'm actually wondering how she is able to do it! She always has a smile on her face and good cheer in her heart and kind words for all of us, even the ones of you that attack her the most.
So, I'm sorry I don't see where she deserves the scorn of the moderators.
And yes I know....I'll get a whole long line of ....'I hate her so much, she's always so nice!'....and here comes Vanilla with 'She gets on my nerves with her kindness!!!' and Urban will say 'We should respect the members? WHAT? F**K the members!'
^^you guys really don't see what's happening here do you? I'm serious, you really don't see it?
And you know what I expect? You know the silliest, funniest thing I expect to happen next?
For Erica to come in here and defend you guys. LOL That's just how she is.
Because she's Vegangelica. And she would take up for each one of you if she saw something going down the wrong way and you know it.
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