I immediately searched for "Mac" and oh man. So much fun to read. This one has a lot of back and forth:

Buying Advice For Mac?

You own a PC too. I own four macs, remember? ;)

In my opinion, a Mac thinks for me, not with me. That's exactly what I hate about it. Unless you're a tech geek and can program in Unix. Then it's brilliant, but that's not really the idea.

Haha, searching Mac on a computerforum that isn't an apple forum (I got kicked off of three apple forums for being critical. Not even negative!) is like searching for "Bose" on a serious audio forum. You should try ;).

what's wrong with Bose? I hear you making fun and bad mouthing it so much but why is it?

I heard there is a problem with the fuse blowing out quickly but anything else wrong with them?

It's really expensive and it sounds very very bad compared to speakers that are an awful lot cheaper. Bose is just very cheap crap for a very large price.
The marketing is great, so people fall for it, but except for some nice amplifiers back in the 70's and some decent car audio, bose hasn't produced anything worth mentioning. And still people buy it and buy it and buy it...

PC for fun, Mac for work.

I wonder who voted "screw them both"? Dayvan? I know she uses Linux.

Still a PC, innit?

Having said that: If I coul have Mac design at a PC price running Windows or properly running Linux, I'd dig that. I still love this one:
http://www.techdigest.tv/imac-g4-flat-panel.jpg
I will buy this once. Not yet.
It's stupid to pay 150 dollars for a computer that's 11 years old and is pretty much useless.
For the same money you buy a 2-3 year old PC... 11 year old PC's well... I have a pile of those. Literally.

So is a Mac.

Yeah that's true.
Apple PC or any other PC should be the question.

Yeah I just thought it was Mac vs. Windows lol

I think usually when people say "Mac vs. PC" they mean Windows PC.

Figures. But that actually makes no sense :D.

What's the idea of this topic anyway?
Most people use PC's, allright. So... no we know that :D

PC isn't just a general term for "personal computer". It refers to an actual hardware architecture that's based on the old IBM PC architecture. Windows has nothing to do with it. Windows is simply an operating system. You don't have to install Windows on a PC. Besides, there really isn't any reason to specify "Windows-based PC" when Mac is practically unanimously referred to simply as a Mac.

The term "personal computer" itself is outdated. It was used when computers were first being marketed that regular people could afford and use practically. Now days, it's a given. If you're not buying a "personal computer", you're probably buying a server. There is no longer any reason to make the distinction that the computer you use at home is, indeed, a personal computer.

The reason for saying "Windows-based PC" is more about distinguishing it from things like Linux-based PCs than from Macs IMO.

But there isn't a difference between the hardware in a PC that has either Windows or Linux on it. The software is irrelevant when you're referring to an architecture, which PC is referring to.

Hey, trivia.
Does anyone here know why MacIntosh is called MacIntosh?
What does it refer to and, if you know that, why isn't it called McIntosh?

Wonder if anyone knows :)

Probably because it isn't Irish.

But the "Mac vs. PC" debate is about hardware and software.

Whaha, Shamintosh.

when people bring up the debate though they are mainly talking about the windows OS though.

No, need to really specify the differences between OS types.

Not sure. I always assumed it was a reference to the type of fruit. I never realized that it was spelled differently.

That's all well and good. I was referring to the usage of the term "PC", and why it's actually correct usage when referring to IBM based architecture.

Well if that's the case then the debate should be "MacOS vs. Windows".

Okay.

You should said that in the debate, they discuss hardware AND software.

but yes, most of the time the comparisons come down to Tiger OSX or whatever the MAC uses....I don't remember and Windows.

Well you are right. It is a reference to the type of fruit.
But then there already was a brand called McIntosh.
A very nice brand too:
http://www.sonicflare.com/McIntosh%2...mb-600x400.jpg
Would love to have one of those. But they're a lot more expensive than the one that's spelled with an a in it :D.

So that's why they couldn't give it the name they wanted.

I hope they stop putting an i in front of everything by the way. iI iam igetting isick iof iit.

A friend of mine was with me while I was installing iWork on my e(!)Mac.
His comment: "iWork? iWork! No YOU work or I'll just buy myself a typewriter" :D

there is a brand of apples that are produced called Macintosh Apples and I'm pretty sure that's where they got the name....too bad I didn't pay attention and see the trivia question earlier.

:D.
The apples are called McIntosh ;)

I already said that. :)

That's what he said

For you Mac owners, how hard is it to upgrade parts in your computer? Or build one yourself? Do you get a lot of choices for hardware?

I'm genuinely curious, as I don't own one, so I have no idea.

I voted 'both' because they both have good and bad qualities that the other one makes up for. I use a PC and a Mac.

you just said a type of fruit not which one but I just scrolled up and saw what you typed up...

oops I was late

Anyways, this still doesn't explain why they decided to name it Mac instead of McIntosh since the apple brand is called McIntosh....oh duh me nevermind already a company with that name....that makes stereos

carry on...nothing to see here.

What choices? Steve Jobs doesn't want people to have any choices or freedoms to customize anything....that prick.

You get some choices in hardware, more so with the towers than with the iMacs. And you can upgrade things but its definitely more limited than with other computers. I think it's next to impossible to build one yourself, legally at least.

It is very easy, only apple won't give you any warranty on your mac if you don't use genuine mac parts.
And genuine mac parts are just regular parts with an apple not it. That's all.
They make the bios (I guess it's the bios that does that) so that it only accepts the hardware that's made for the computer. E.g.: An eMac only works with DDR 333mhz. Not with 400. ANY DDR 333 will work, but Apple will tell you different. And if you try to install quicker ram, like you would be able to do in any PC, the mac will not boot. ****ers.

Eitherway, you can just replace memory and hd's like you would in a normal PC or laptop. They just don't want you to.

I've never built a computer but if I was going to - it definitely would not be a Mac. I'm not even sure that's possible. Hardware for Mac hasn't been a problem for me (they know their typical users aren't as computer-savvy so they make everything pretty easy). Each paradigm outsmarts the other one in several ways. Mac is 'easier' when it comes to unfamiliar software and hardware (and they make you pay for it). PC doesn't help the user much but offers a lot more freedom.

Man, that sucks.
And DDR 333mhz? Wow, how old is that eMac?

The thing I love about PCs is the fact that there are so many great manufacturers out there that offer every part of a computer, and you get to choose what you want in your computer. The end result of that is maximum control and customization to meet your needs, room to expand in the future without having to buy another computer, and it's far cheaper than buying something pre-made of the same capability.

So about how long do Macs have until they start showing their age, in regards to technology and stuff that comes out and requires more power and speed?

Here, found a drive:

Haha yes dude I totally agree. Crazy, isn't it?
"stupid piece of fruit". lol.

But yea, WD Caviar line is a great line (except for the green). Got some Blacks coming my way in a couple days for that RAID 0 I was telling you about. WD is probably the only brand I'd trust. Never had any issues with them.