PC or Mac?

**Janszoon** · 04-01-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

Well, I mean, it's like... how different can the browsers be from each other? Not a lot of wiggle room really...

Well Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera and prior versions of IE all feel fairly different from each other.

Freebase Dali · 04-01-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

Well you can never tell what's going to happen in the future...
Maybe Microsoft starts behaving all apple-like too...

That's when I'd switch operating systems to something else. But at least I'd still have the choice.

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Allright, I'm a regular visitor of oldversion.com as I like to keep the software I'm used to. So I'm always sceptic about new Windows versions and I've only been using Windows 7 for a year now. I am using all kinds of windowses througout my house so I think I have a pretty clear view on the differences.
Here's the question you could have expected: Why exactly would you want to keep using Windows XP?
I'm guessing soundcards. These are always an issue.

Nah, I'm ok with my audio interface. I have an Echo Audiofire 12, and its drivers support XP, Vista and 7, 32 or 64 bit.
Mainly I'm worried about plugins. I have a 64bit version of my music program Sonar 8.5 PE (which is W7 certified), and it supposedly has something called "bitbridge" that's supposed to allow you to use 32bit audio plugins in its 64bit architecture, but I hear a lot of problems with it.
Ultimately, all I can do is go through my thousands of plugins and see which ones work. I guess, at that point, I can either drop the ones that dont, or dual-boot a 32bit XP (which I already have) and if those plugins are extremely important for, say, mastering, then I can use the 32bit boot for mastering. I don't really need all that RAM (12GB) for mastering anyway. The RAM will come in more handy during huge projects with a lot of individual synths and samples.
As far as other every-day-use software, I'm willing to use newer versions if necessary, and am not worried about that.

s_k · 04-01-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't find Firefox to be sluggish but I do find it to be ugly. I use it for work since it has better developer tools, but I tend to use Safari off the clock (I'm on it right now) because dropdowns and buttons and whatnot look better in it. Chrome has never really clicked with me for whatever reason. I mean I like it, but just find I almost never think to launch it unless I'm doing cross-browser testing.

Haha, well that's the Mac way of thinking I guess.
I prefer the browser that works best.
I found out something nice by the way, will post a video in a sec

**Janszoon** · 04-01-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

Haha, well that's the Mac way of thinking I guess.

Using Firefox because it has better developer tools is the Mac way of thinking?

s_k · 04-01-2011, 06:26 PM

I meant choosing a browser because of the way it looks, rather than because of the way it works is probably the Mac way of thinking.

Here, about old OSses running brand new browsers.
Check the video I made. You just can't beat windows 2000

And the stuff I'm talking about at the end of the video:

There was a seperate downloadable MS installer for Windows 2000, but that didn't help.

But hey, Running Firefox 4 on an OS that's OLDER than Mac OS 9.
I mean... Compared to Windows 2000, Mac OS 9 is rather useless...
The only half decent browser that works on it is some old version of netscape navigator...

**Janszoon** · 04-01-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

I meant choosing a browser because of the way it looks, rather than because of the way it works is probably the Mac way of thinking.

Except that's not what I'm doing. If I thought one of my browsers ran better than the others I'd use that one, but I find that Firefox, Safari and Chrome all run equally well. So all that's left to choose by is what looks and feels the best to me.

s_k · 04-01-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

That's when I'd switch operating systems to something else. But at least I'd still have the choice.

Well to be completely honest, on a PC you can run two useable operating systems. Windows and some Linux.
On a modern day mac you can run Linux distro's, Windows and Mac OS. So when it comes to choice of OS's, go for the mac. But you probably don't want to use MacOS as you're used to the software you use now. So why spend more money. I don't think it will be of any use to you

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Mainly I'm worried about plugins.

Hmmm, I'd probably use a seperate PC for those plug ins. But then I don't mind having three PC's standing in one room

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As far as other every-day-use software, I'm willing to use newer versions if necessary, and am not worried about that.

OldVersion.com, becausenewerisnotalwaysbetter

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Be aware, you may run into some 'upgrades' of software that really suck.

Brings me back to Mac OS

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Since Mac OS 10.6, when you select multiple files and click the right mouse button to go to 'file info', it will open a little window with file info for every ****ing file you selected. I want to know how big these files are together.
Lucky me, I tried this first with 310 files. So I had 310 little windows I had to close. Thank god for cmd+w. But then this is a Mac so it has to be animated beautifully... So altough the Core i7 is quick enough to get rid of all those windows within the blink of an eye, very single one had to go into the dock smoothly... *sigh*... Design over practicality...
I found out later that you have to press command shift I or something now. Well that's fine, but I still think this:

Is the best way to do it

CanwllCorfe · 04-01-2011, 06:41 PM

I was in the video! I was in the video!

s_k · 04-01-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Except that's not what I'm doing. If I thought one of my browsers ran better than the others I'd use that one, but I find that Firefox, Safari and Chrome all run equally well. So all that's left to choose by is what looks and feels the best to me.

Ah, that's something different.
I sort of read 'Firefox has some good sides to it that Safari hasn't, but I still use safari because it looks pretty'. If it were the same to me, I would also choose the prettiest looking one.
I love firefox for it's add-ons. They really make using my computer a lot more convenient and comfortable. And they're only there when I want them to be (I always want to choose what I install

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe

I was in the video! I was in the video!

Hahaha, yes you were

Mr November · 04-01-2011, 06:42 PM

I use a mac. I find it's better at everyday tasks like surfing the internet, typing up papers, navigating fiels. But it makes life difficult if you like games, and I also don't like iMovie as much as I like Windows Movie Maker... But recording software and image editing software is generally better on a mac, or at least feels better. It's also going to depend on the model you get, and it's a little bit hard to compare the mac to a "pc" since the mac is a personal computer. You're really talking about either Mac OS versus every other OS, or mac hardware versus actual customizable stacks etc.

Tough discussion for me. Me and my mac have a love hate relationship...

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s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	I meant choosing a browser because of the way it looks, rather than because of the way it works is probably the Mac way of thinking. Here, about old OSses running brand new browsers. Check the video I made. You just can't beat windows 2000 And the stuff I'm talking about at the end of the video: There was a seperate downloadable MS installer for Windows 2000, but that didn't help. But hey, Running Firefox 4 on an OS that's OLDER than Mac OS 9. I mean... Compared to Windows 2000, Mac OS 9 is rather useless... The only half decent browser that works on it is some old version of netscape navigator... __________________ Click here to see my collection

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Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	I use a mac. I find it's better at everyday tasks like surfing the internet, typing up papers, navigating fiels. But it makes life difficult if you like games, and I also don't like iMovie as much as I like Windows Movie Maker... But recording software and image editing software is generally better on a mac, or at least feels better. It's also going to depend on the model you get, and it's a little bit hard to compare the mac to a "pc" since the mac is a personal computer. You're really talking about either Mac OS versus every other OS, or mac hardware versus actual customizable stacks etc. Tough discussion for me. Me and my mac have a love hate relationship...