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Old 02-04-2011, 03:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think people confuse quality with a good listening experience. Good sound quality in the context of this test means that there are more details in the sound information which is being played. Some of that information will be outside the audible spectrum and so on so we should suspect that it's not likely to add much to the listening experience. Some of that information may be audible and then it could. But the real test is whether or not we can identify the higher quality music when it is played.

I think sometimes, some speakers sound better than others, not because you hear more details in the sound, but because it transmits those details in a nicer way. Then you're talking about a different kind of quality than what we're testing here of course.

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Old 02-04-2011, 03:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think people confuse quality with a good listening experience. Good sound quality in the context of this test means that there are more details in the sound information which is being played. Some of that information will be outside the audible spectrum and so on so we should suspect that it's not likely to add much to the listening experience. Some of that information may be audible and then it could. But the real test is whether or not we can identify the higher quality music when it is played.
The information itself is outside the audible spectrum, but there's lower and higher resonance even from the tones you can't hear. This also creates a lot of depth and what 'us audiophiles' like to call 'black'.
Black is the actual space between instruments in a room. You can hear that on a good set. It's brilliant, as it gives you the idea you have more 'space' to listen to. I only have this with some records, but I have been at places where everything has a lot of 'black'.
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I think sometimes, some speakers sound better than others, not because you hear more details in the sound, but because it transmits those details in a nicer way.
Completely true. Almost every speaker is able to go from let's say... 60 to 25.000hz. But that's not all there is to that.
That's why a speaker that measures 100% flat, doesn't always sound good.
I've been at an audio show last year and there was a set of speakers of 9000 dollars each. The most expensive in the room. They measure perfectly. But they sound like complete crap. Really really very bad.
The speakers that would actually measure worse as they only have one unit (full range broad band speaker), were brilliant. Yes they lack a bit in detail, yes they lack a bit in lower frequencies. But everything in between was so beautiful. They really made music, those speakers.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I know people who lay claim to both, and personally, I don't believe I notice a difference after a point (or if I do, I don't care), but I thought I'd give it a go!

EDIT: I just kind of winged it after the first few. Just like the colour hue test, I don't really have the patience to nitpick around the end, haha.

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Old 02-04-2011, 04:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Pedestrian, don't forget to post your answers (edit: ah, now they're there)

sk, I'm aware of the resonance created by inaudible sounds. Still, I suspect they don't add much to the listening experience. Actually, that's a given since if they did, this test would be easy.

I'm not taking this test, but if anyone wonders how I'd do, I'd probably suck at it. My hearing's taken a beating over the years and I'm a tinnitus sufferer so that's changed how I view quality. I think the kind of sound which is nice to listen to is a lot more important than the kind of sound which contains a lot of minute detail.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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sk, I'm aware of the resonance created by inaudible sounds. Still, I suspect they don't add much to the listening experience. Actually, that's a given since if they did, this test would be easy.
Oh yes they do.
And about this test: A CD goes from 20hz to 20khz. This lays within the hearing range of quite some people. So you don't have the full listening experience eitherway

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I'm not taking this test, but if anyone wonders how I'd do, I'd probably suck at it. My hearing's taken a beating over the years and I'm a tinnitus sufferer so that's changed how I view quality.
All you have to hear in a test like this is the lack of quality .
You might do just fine.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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That was pretty difficult for the most part. PM mah score, please!
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Old 02-05-2011, 03:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I had some hunches but I'm not even going to pretend there's enough decernable difference in quality between tracks that I would ever make a fuss over. That being said, I'm not one to ensure my collection is perfectly flac'd. I definitely enjoy a higher quality file rip as much as the next guy but I think there's certainly a limit to where it really matters all that much.
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Old 02-05-2011, 03:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
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yeah hit's pretty hard to tell the differences but one sounded more pleasing to my ears than the other and that's how I chose which ones I liked and were probably the higher BR ones.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm not sure for any track I've chosen. They all sounded pretty much the same to me in quality.
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