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07-25-2010, 03:15 PM | #261 (permalink) | |
Dr. Prunk
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But I agree that her attitude comes off as being patronizing to other female members which I have an issue with. I think she tends to make the female members more uncomfortable than any of the guys due to her preachiness about what women "need" to do. I wouldn't call it sexism so much as just being overly passionate about her views which causes her to be self righteous and preachy, and having way too much of an "either/or" way of looking at things when regarding her gender. Whenever someone feels like their way is "how it should be" and projects that idea onto others making them feel like they're being treated like moral inferiors or misguided people, then I think that's a problem. I still like Vegangelica to an extent, she's not mean or abrasive about her beliefs, not intentionally anyway, I've definitely come across morally imperialistic vegan/feminists who I want to be burned alive. She's not that bad. We agree on some things and she's openminded about things that very few people are openminded about. I just wish she'd get off her high horse when regarding certain things. Last edited by boo boo; 07-25-2010 at 03:27 PM. |
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07-25-2010, 05:05 PM | #263 (permalink) | |
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07-25-2010, 05:07 PM | #264 (permalink) | |
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07-25-2010, 07:07 PM | #265 (permalink) | |||||
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BROAD?! BROAD! You betcha women's heads are broad, boo boo! That's because we've got such big and capable brains in them. Quote:
One way to *stop* negative peer pressure is to acknowledge it exists and point out how it functions--the more people who do something (such as shave their legs), the greater the peer pressure. I view myself as simply pointing out the negative peer pressure that surrounds the shaving norm. I wish women's leg hair were not an issue at all, so that women could do what they wish without people telling them they are ugly if they don't choose the socially accepted choice. Quote:
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I think that my perspective on the "girl/women" name issue is affected in part by my age. I'm closer to the generation (before mine) that dealt with severe sexism, whereas now it is more subtle. Up until the 1970s, women in sciences such as my predecessors were expected to retire when they got married! And my mom lost her job due to being female and asking a valid question of the (male) departmental head in a public departmental meeting, which irked him. That was in the late 1970s, and that was how her career ended: with disappointment and discrimination. My views on the leg shaving norm are also affected by my personal experiences. I experienced the shame of growing darker leg hair during puberty, when I resorted to preventing my peers from seeing my leg hair such as by wearing knee-high socks in a hot tub, claiming I wore them to avoid contracting foot fungus. I was reduced to lying to hide my body hair! My own experience of knowing that I'd be teased for a natural part of my body has shaped my view of the harm of the shaving norm, as do the studies that show girls still start shaving because they feel their hair is ugly and they are afraid of all the putdowns they'd face if they didn't shave. Regardless how many women feel happy following the shaving norm, I will always stand up for those girls or women who do not, boo boo. I don't think the shavers need protection so much as the girls and women who are defying a constrictive social norm and facing comments such as "Use some f*cking Nair!" As for URBAN HATEMONGER...I don't think he means harm to women. I like him. I never said I felt he was annoyingly dismissive of women. People just have fun in different ways. I have fun by debating things. I think Urban sometimes likes to appear sexist for fun. I think it is just an act. Mostly. And I do listen to his views of my behaviors to see whether I think they mesh with how I see them. I don't view myself as sexist when I point out problems with people calling women "girls" or problems with people telling women that their body hair is ugly. Quite the opposite: I see myself as supporting women and their choices. I don't think Urban was actually able to make his "sexism charge" against me stick, anyway...although he was right that I have definite views I'd like other people to share, such as at those times when I am right and everyone else is wrong.
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07-27-2010, 02:56 AM | #270 (permalink) |
Dr. Prunk
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Yeah the ones who think they can run successful businesses and play sports amirite?
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