VEGANGELICA

What aspects of this thread do you find most frustrating, bannister? The whole idea that some people think women and men may not be equally funny? Or the ways people have expressed themselves?

I can understand that humor about a serious topic such as sexism can seem to trivialize it. On the other hand, sometimes humor can make people think about something they might not normally think about because the subject is so boring to them or seems trivial to them.

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I'm sorry to say this thread has become stupid to such an extent that it's getting on my nerves, and I don't even follow it closely.

Women who do stand up usually aren't as funny as men who do it, drop the feminism. Don't forget that "usually".

So what? Does that mean women can't be funny? Have you never laughed at a joke a woman told you? Or at something she did purposedly to make you laugh? I have.

And again, the last two options of the poll are useless.

VEGANGELICA

Do you feel there is a particular reason women stand-up comedians, in your opinion, usually aren't as funny as men? For example, do you think it is due to different life experiences they may have? Or ways they are encouraged to express themselves?

And if women just regularly in everyday life are funny and make you laugh, why don't you think that translates so well into stand-up comedy, UB?

It would be interesting to see two comedians, one male, one female, give the exact same stand-up comedy act and then judge the reactions of two separate audiences. If the comic material is the same, you'd expect the reaction to be about the same. If the reaction *isn't* the same (such as if the man were considered funnier) then the question would be why.

If this experiment were done again and again with a variety of paired comedians (male and female) and stand-up routines, you could actually rule out some of the variation between individual comedians and focus in on whether the comedian's gender affects the audience members' perceptions.

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In the past week we've had a thread on rape, the problem with homosexuals, and now why women are the least funny of the two sexes. I feel like its a setup but regardless of that, can we start a thread on why Boo Boo hates men/himself/penises so much?

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so now you're assuming males are the problem here? Why isn't it an issue of personality?

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Janszoon

Why would expect that? Comedy is mostly about delivery.

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The Fascinating Turnip

See, here you are again with the conditioning and what not.

"You don't think women are funny because you were conditioned to think they should be in the kitchen!"

Stand up comedians talk about things that they experience, how they experience them and how they see it. So in a way, I suppose it's due to life experiences.

Also I don't think women and men experience things the same way. I don't really think the things that bother women are an exact match with the things that bother men. So that's another one.

VEGANGELICA

Well, a lot of people in the thread have claimed that male stand-up comedians are funnier (which I disagreed with), and so I assume they think men have funnier personalities...at least when doing stand-up comedy. I think they are saying the difference is both an issue of gender *and* personality...as if men had a particular type of personality. *I* don't think men have a particular personality.

I assumed that if we had, say, 50 male comedians and 50 female comedians paired up and delivering the same jokes (to different audiences with randomly chosen members) then any differences due to skill of delivery would average out and not be a factor, leaving gender as the main difference between the two groups of comedians.

Then we could analyze whether the laugh-o-meter or survey results suggest the audiences had a preference for the male group over the female group and assume differences in perceived humor were due to gender of the comedian groups. (Gender of the audience members would be a separate variable.)

This should work unless almost all women really HAVEN'T learned how to deliver their lines in a humorous way. If all women really DON'T have effective comedian delivery, then we'd conclude there is some gender issue at play.

I never said I feel women and men are conditioned to make one group better stand-up comedians! I wondered if that was what you felt causes you to feel that men are usually funnier during stand-up comedy.

Hmm...how do you feel women and men experience things differently such that the way women experience life events would cause them to be less funny as stand-up comedians? Why would the things women but not men are bothered by (if there are such things) translate less effectively into stand-up comedy?

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Actually I think the person who has acted in the most sexist way in this thread so far is you.

Pretty much everybody in this thread came in & all they did was offer an opinion on female comics.

You came in here ranting & raving about how someone addressed Vanilla without even bothering to find out if Vanilla even had a problem with it or not, and started making assumptions about her personal preferences as if she couldn't do such a thing herself dictating to her as to why she shouldn't be happy being addressed in such a way.

Personally if that was me I would find that far more patronising & annoying than being called a boy or being told my gender wasn't as funny as another.

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I knew even suggesting that men and women are slightly different would annoy you.

Of course it translates into stand-up comedy. Making people relate to what you're talking about or at least make them see things from your position is a big part of stand-up comedy.