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Guybrush 10-09-2009 03:35 AM

The Last.FM Similarity Project
 
Hey guys!

I thought of the potential for doing statistics with the data gathered from last.fm. One of the easier things one could do is just to check similarity between users and I thought something like that might be interesting to do in our musicbanter community.

The idea is that in the end, we'll get some sort of visual representation - 2d or 3d - in which you can see different people from our community represented as dots or something and the distance between them tells you how similar they are in taste. Something like that is likely to create clusters where members of similar tastes group together and with people whose tastes are a bit broader may be found in between these clusters.

This requires us to make a similarity matrix and contributing to it is going to require a little dedication from all our participants.


Because this will get very labour intensive if there are many people and many people leaving or entering the project, we need to create a list of participants before we start collecting data. I'll set the limit of participants to 20 and to ensure participants are active members of our community, I'll only accept those who have a post count of 100 or more. Also, participants have to have been members of last.fm for a long enough time so that people can get similarity comparisons with them.

Summary : As a participant, first post here that you want to participate. Once all slots are filled (20 people), you'll have to post your similarity scores with the other participants in this thread.

Last.FM Scores :

Very Low - 1
Low - 2
Medium - 3
High - 4
Very High - 5
Super - 6



Participants

Here are participants with links to their last.fm pages. Each participant will be represented in the final "product" with a two-letter (or number) code.
  1. +81 - +8
  2. adidasss - AD
  3. Anteater - AE
  4. anticipation - AP
  5. Bardonodude - BA
  6. Bulldog - BD
  7. Captain Caveman - CC
  8. Dreadnaught - DN
  9. Jackhammer - JH
  10. Kayleigh - KL
  11. khfreek - KF
  12. LoathsomePete - LP
  13. Molecules - MC
  14. NumberNineDream - ND
  15. Sidewinder - SW
  16. storymilo - SM
  17. Toretorden - TT
  18. Urban Hatemonger - UH
  19. wolverinewolfweiselpigeon - WW
  20. Zeppy111 - Z1

edit :

RESULTS ARE IN

Guybrush 10-09-2009 03:39 AM

Here's an example post from myself as a participant :

Hey, I wanna join the project! You can find my last.fm page here -> toretorden’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm


In the future when I want your similarity scores, you can add them to your post like this :
  1. Jackhammer - JH - 4

The final list has to be copied and pasted (quoted) from my first post when it's done (the order of participants needs to be the same) and then you add a numerical value after each participant which reflects your similarity to him/her. The number 4 after Jackhammer means I have a high similarity in taste with Jackhammer.

Now .. I'm not sure if enough people are willing to try this out, but let's see. :D

NumberNineDream 10-09-2009 06:41 AM

I'm in, but my LastFM account is still new. I haven't listened to much bands yet so the similarity test wouldn't be that precise.

adidasss 10-09-2009 06:52 AM

Cool idea. Count me in.

diezelpower’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Bulldog 10-09-2009 06:55 AM

Good idea. I'm game.

tick_tock83’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

adidasss 10-09-2009 06:58 AM

Incidentally, why do we have to add people on our friends lists when you can find out the compatibility rate without it?

Edit: Or not...:unsure:

Edit2: Yes you can...:is sure:

NumberNineDream 10-09-2009 07:28 AM

I'm gonna ignore what I said above, and do the thing. I think there's a main idea of what I listen to.

NumberNineDream’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Guybrush 10-09-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 749419)
Incidentally, why do we have to add people on our friends lists when you can find out the compatibility rate without it?

Edit: Or not...:unsure:

Edit2: Yes you can...:is sure:

Ohh right, thanks for clarifying that little detail. I thought you had to add people as contacts first.

That makes it easier :p:

tgpo 10-09-2009 07:50 AM

Weak. I've been a last.fm member since 2006, but did a reset in 2008. But I obviously don't meet the 100 post count requirement.

I'll be watching for the results, I always find stats like this interesting.

adidasss 10-09-2009 08:07 AM

Why do people do resets?

zeppy111 10-09-2009 08:11 AM

I would be definitely be down if the requirements are met:

Last fm page: zeppy111’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

tgpo 10-09-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 749458)
Why do people do resets?

My taste in music had shifted from 2006 to 2008, but the recommendations last.fm was giving me was still heavily based on the 2006 scrobbles. I reset so the recommendations would be accurate for my current tastes.

Molecules 10-09-2009 08:46 AM

in me count Jinsie’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

anticipation 10-09-2009 09:13 AM

i can dig it: anticipations’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

LoathsomePete 10-09-2009 09:28 AM

pobodys_nerfect’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Sure why not

FETCHER. 10-09-2009 11:24 AM

Im in, even though i could predict this myself :laughing:
tamsonn's

Guybrush 10-09-2009 11:40 AM

MC, AP, KL, LP and Z1 are in! :D

NumberNineDream 10-09-2009 11:48 AM

So I can't join yet?

WWWP 10-09-2009 11:58 AM

Nice idea, Tore. raptorcat’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

sidewinder 10-09-2009 12:05 PM

Count me in! sidewinder03's Music Profile

simplephysics 10-09-2009 12:08 PM

Sounds good, I'm in.

simple-physics’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

khfreek 10-09-2009 12:09 PM

khfreek’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

To N9D: "Also, participants have to have been members of last.fm for a long enough time so that people can get similarity comparisons with them."

+81 10-09-2009 12:11 PM

Count me in PlusEightyOne’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

NumberNineDream 10-09-2009 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 749527)
To N9D: "Also, participants have to have been members of last.fm for a long enough time so that people can get similarity comparisons with them."

that's why I said "yet"

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2009 01:01 PM

Go on then

MidniteXpressed’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Guybrush 10-09-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 749516)
So I can't join yet?

Well, you said you hadn't had last.fm long but more importantly, you never posted a link to your last.fm page as per the instructions!

edit : Alright, 6 more slots! :D

NumberNineDream 10-09-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 749428)
I'm gonna ignore what I said above, and do the thing. I think there's a main idea of what I listen to.

NumberNineDream’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

^

Guybrush 10-09-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 749563)
^

Ah right, you're in!

5 more slots then :)

storymilo 10-09-2009 02:06 PM

I'll do this. Although my Last.fm fails miserably when it comes to actually recording my tastes, because a lot of it is left over from before I really expanded my tastes, and some of them are my younger brothers scrobbles.

storymilo’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Anteater 10-09-2009 02:16 PM

Here there be awesomez.

Anteat3r’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

adidasss 10-09-2009 02:17 PM

@storymilo: So what's the point of you participating if the results aren't really gonna be accurate?

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 10-09-2009 02:22 PM

im down

mac-’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

storymilo 10-09-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 749570)
@storymilo: So what's the point of you participating if the results aren't really gonna be accurate?

I'd still like to see the results, and it does still have my taste in there, just not as accurate as I'd like.

Guybrush 10-09-2009 02:35 PM

Room for 2 more!

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 10-09-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 749458)
Why do people do resets?

i reset my charts over a year because theyre werent really changing fast enough any more and i got bored

jackhammer 10-09-2009 03:55 PM

Stick me in there:

jackhammer_go’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

bardonodude 10-09-2009 03:58 PM

Bardonodude’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm

Guybrush 10-09-2009 04:02 PM

Alright, spots taken!

I'll make a post with my similarity scores soon, then you can follow my lead.

anticipation 10-09-2009 04:14 PM

im predicting me mac and brandon aren't going to be near very many people on the stat plot.

Guybrush 10-09-2009 04:25 PM

Toretorden's similarity scores :

+81 - +8 - 1
adidasss - AD - 2
Anteater - AE - 5
anticipation - AP - 1
Bardonodude - BA - 1
Bulldog - BD - 3
Captain Caveman - CC - 1
Dreadnaught - DN - 2
Jackhammer - JH - 4
Kayleigh - KL - 1
khfreek - KF - 5
LoathsomePete - LP - 2
Molecules - MC - 4
NumberNineDream - ND - 2
Sidewinder - SW - 5
storymilo - SM - 4
Toretorden - TT
Urban Hatemonger - UH - 4
wolverinewolfweiselpigeon - WW - 3
Zeppy111 - Z1 - 5


Of course you don't add a score for yourself, but leave your name in so that the order is not disturbed. You don't actually have to add the names, you could just list the two-letter codes along with the score, but I've added the names anyways to keep me from getting confused.

Important : The important thing when you post your scores aside from getting them right is that you include all the participants in the list (including yourself) and the same order as the list above or in the first post (alphabetical)

The reason it's important is because then, I can basically just copy and paste your list into my matrix. To show you guys what I'm making, here's my matrix with my own data entered into it.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7561/protomatrix.png

As you can see, all the numbers are entered under my TT-row and you can see my similarity score with other members by checking the boxes on the left hand side.

Now .. get to work! :)


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