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Old 04-21-2009, 05:11 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Wow, that sounds like exactly the kind of comment I pointed out in that other post, the "me first" philosophy that all of our Eastern friends seem to think we hold.

And for the record, America was giving supplies to the Allies far before Pearl Harbor was bombed
Well that's how America is repeatedly portrayed, and to this day it's the same.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Well that's how America is repeatedly portrayed, and to this day it's the same.
How a country is portrayed and how a country is are two different things. It would be in your best interest to find out those differences
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:13 PM   #53 (permalink)
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All I want to emphasise is that the Allies who originally fought for the majority of the war are the ones that held it together for as long as they could, and that is incredibly heroic. Funnily enough it took America getting bombed before they actually gave a shit about the rest of the world.
and Europe didn't give a shit until after Poland was invaded. the war was going on for quite a while before that; China had been invaded four years prior.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:13 PM   #54 (permalink)
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My grandfather fought in the war, and hundreds of thousands of our men died because of that war. We are a small country too. If American's really could have won the war hands down they would have got involved far earlier.
Psh, there was too much money to be made.
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I just did...300,000 dead.

Holocaust...8 million.

You do the "math".
that's one incident, over a six week period (to give you a taste for how horrific the crimes were). here's the bigger statistic:

Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10,000,000 estimated.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:15 PM   #56 (permalink)
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How a country is portrayed and how a country is are two different things. It would be in your best interest to find out those differences
Yeah I think I know that, I'm just saying how you're portrayed there's a difference.
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over a six week period. here's the bigger statistic:

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10,000,000 estimated.
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Yeah I think I know that, I'm just saying how you're portrayed there's a difference.
Well then why make assumptions? America is portrayed the way in part due to envy, that's why people like to criticise America every time something happense there, because it's the big dog and everyone likes to see that country fall. Just ask Britain
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and Europe didn't give a shit until after Poland was invaded. the war was going on for quite a while before that; China had been invaded four years prior.
But I suppose that was based on governments of the Allied countries making decisions about when to become involved. In New Zealand everything about the war was dumbed down, so we didn't really no anything that was going on. Basically the troops got signed up, shiped out when we were told to.
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and Europe didn't give a shit until after Poland was invaded. the war was going on for quite a while before that; China had been invaded four years prior.
You're forgetting that the European allies secured a peace treaty with Germany before the invasion of Poland. Hardly not giving a shit.
A deal that also guaranteed British involvement against Germany should they invade. Also, hardly not giving a shit.

Also, after Europe fell to the Nazi's the British could have sued for peace.
We chose to stand alone and continued to fight...alone.

I'm not disputing what happened in the far east Sam. I'm fully aware of what took place.
I was trying to bring attention to the Soviet contribution to the war. Which in my opinion is sadly overlooked by some countries.
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