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Old 04-21-2009, 04:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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My grandfather fought in the war, and hundreds of thousands of our men died because of that war. We are a small country too. If American's really could have won the war hands down they would have got involved far earlier.
Beg pardon if I ask, but who's saying the American's could've won the war hands down?
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Beg pardon if I ask, but who's saying the American's could've won the war hands down?
That's the impression I've got from reading your replies.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:01 PM   #43 (permalink)
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That's the impression I've got from reading your replies.
Really? Because I thought I made my position pretty clear in THIS post:
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There's a difference between saying the U.S. getting involved is the reason the Allies won the war and saying the U.S. could've won the war on their own.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:03 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I'm not sure who you're speaking for when you say "the Americans"...
err...you;

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I thought the Soviets played a more defensive game in WW2 than an offensive? I don't really have an extensive knowledge of WW2 but if not for their blistering cold weather, they would've lost Stalingrad.
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Heh yeah, that D-Day was a walk through a fresh meadow...
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This thread has devolved into the utterly typical U.S. vs. Britain war that consistently plagues this forum
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:04 PM   #45 (permalink)
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now that i think about it that's probably why that pie chart looks like it does.
Then you'd be wrong.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:06 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Really? Because I thought I made my position pretty clear in THIS post:
All I want to emphasise is that the Allies who originally fought for the majority of the war are the ones that held it together for as long as they could, and that is incredibly heroic. Funnily enough it took America getting bombed before they actually gave a shit about the rest of the world.
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yeah i suppose not.
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err...you;
1. is true before the United States got involved, it's not really disputable
2. was in defense of your slighting comment
3. was an honest question
4. is completely unrelated
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:09 PM   #49 (permalink)
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yup

go read up on the rape of Nanking.
I just did...300,000 dead.

Holocaust...8 million.

You do the "math".
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All I want to emphasise is that the Allies who originally fought for the majority of the war are the ones that held it together for as long as they could, and that is incredibly heroic. Funnily enough it took America getting bombed before they actually gave a shit about the rest of the world.
Wow, that sounds like exactly the kind of comment I pointed out in that other post, the "me first" philosophy that all of our Eastern friends seem to think we hold.

And for the record, America was giving supplies to the Allies far before Pearl Harbor was bombed
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