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Trollheart 01-11-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793873)
I feel ya. That is the slump where that opinion got popular. They did get better and I'd say that the modern ones are great (although obviously not up to the caliber as the first ten seasons). Watching them and forming an opinion based on that is a good approach imo.

I remember when I, and the family, used to wait eagerly for a new Simpsons episode. Now, it's like "oh a new Simpsons, I might watch that" and usually - although not always - afterwards a roll of the eyes and a "why don't they kill this show now? It's past its best." There are some good ones but I would still have to say that bad ones (of the ones I've seen, and as I say, I no longer watch them religiously) probably outweigh good by about 7-1. Roughly.

Frownland 01-11-2017 09:54 AM

Have you been following the most recent season? I agree that it's past its prime, but if you laugh at your own jokes how do the new episodes not make you short of breath? I think they're solid and I'd say that the good:bad ratio is more like 5-1.

Trollheart 01-11-2017 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793880)
Have you been following the most recent season? I agree that it's past its prime, but if you laugh at your own jokes how do the new episodes not make you short of breath? I think they're solid and I'd say that the good:bad ratio is more like 5-1.

How new is new? I think we consider season 23 new? Not sure though. I'd say I laugh the odd time, most of the time though it's either groans or shrugs. I felt Futurama kept pretty fresh right up to the end, but the Simpsons has been going too long; so long now in fact that they're even parodying their own jokes and episodes. I definitely get the impression of a horse struggling up a hill trying to pull a load that has become way too heavy for it, or that it has become too old to haul.

Frownland 01-11-2017 10:03 AM

The most recent, as in season 28.

I agree that they aren't making their best episodes anymore, but The Simpsons' low bar is still pretty damn great.

Trollheart 01-11-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793885)
The most recent, as in season 28.

I agree that they aren't making their best episodes anymore, but The Simpsons' low bar is still pretty damn great.

Oh yeah: I see we're getting season 28 this weekend on Sky. Might check it out. But I stand by my comment: most of the newer ones have not been able to hold a candle to earlier episodes/seasons. Interestingly, of all things, Sky are also showing right now season one!

The Batlord 01-11-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793873)
I feel ya. That is the slump where that opinion got popular. They did get better and I'd say that the modern ones are great (although obviously not up to the caliber as the first ten seasons). Watching them and forming an opinion based on that is a good approach imo.

Or not wasting my time with a show that was a dead hooker in a dirty alleyway a decade ago sounds good too. I mean if you know an exact episode or two to try out then go for it, but I'm not going through all of that **** on the odd chance that we actually agree on something for once.

Trollheart 01-11-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1793890)
Or not wasting my time with a show that was a dead hooker in a dirty alleyway a decade ago sounds good too. I mean if you know an exact episode or two to try out then go for it, but I'm not going through all of that **** on the odd chance that we actually agree on something for once.

This is kind of where I stand too. It's like the new eps of Family Guy or American Dad: you desperately want them to be good, but it gets to a point where you sit down to watch one and ask yourself beforehand "Why am I doing this? It's going to disappoint?" And it nearly always does.

Frownland 01-11-2017 10:59 AM

:laughing: what were you expecting from American Dad?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1793890)
Or not wasting my time with a show that was a dead hooker in a dirty alleyway a decade ago sounds good too. I mean if you know an exact episode or two to try out then go for it, but I'm not going through all of that **** on the odd chance that we actually agree on something for once.

The LEGO episode was fantastic imo.

EDIT: The Carl episode, too.

Trollheart 01-11-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1793905)
:laughing: what were you expecting from American Dad?

Not a lot really. Therefore I was not really disappointed.

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The LEGO episode was fantastic imo.
Don't think I saw that one.
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EDIT: The Carl episode, too.
That one was garbage. Where they went to Iceland? Give me a break! THAT's what you consider a good current episode? It all fits, now. :rolleyes:

Frownland 01-11-2017 11:08 AM

I liked what it did for Carl's character.


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