gogojessicat

okay i'm a smoker. and i don't think that smoking should be allowed in public places. But with bars i think its different. people can choose to leave if they don't like it. I think there should at least be a smoking area. its so rude the way smokers are treated. like, my college went became a non-smoking campus and didn't even give us a designated smoking area.... so people had to cross the street and stand there shunned in the cold. its just rude.

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adidasss

thankfully, croatia hasn't cought up with this lates fad of banning smokers from bars and night clubs....in italy, you can't smoke in either....i would go crazy if i couldn't smoke while i'm drinking, whether it be a capucino or a beer....
i'm not gonna even argue this, i don't care about non smokers and how their health is affected by my smoking...besides, it's yet to be proven that second hand smoking has killed anyone.....

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Sneer

its common sense, its proven cigarette smoke is damaging, a smoker walks into a bar, lights a ***, smoke starts leaving the stick full of the toxins, non-smoker inhales the smoke, goes into lungs. i agree when people say one instance of inhaling smoke is nothing, what im saying is the long term affects cannot be good (im not even saying it'll kill you, im just saying its detrimental) if it happens to you regularly in your life.

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TheBig3

Did I miss something?

And you know, I got in a fight with a friend of mine who used to be a cook. Don't work in places that allow smoking if you don't like it. It cripples economy in a municipality and certainly ruins the overall in take of a business.

I don't smoke, I hate smokers, but there are coffee house, lounge bars around here that host poetry readings and open mic nights that had an image, a feel, a vibe, and its not the same anymore.

Smokey jazz lounge is a staple of american society. So here at least, i'd say we need it back.

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cardboard adolescent

I'd leave it to the discretion of the owners of the establishment, rather than giving away even more personal liberties to the government.

If a dude wants to start up a smoker-friendly restaurant, so be it. Who are we to say that that's illegal? If you don't like second-hand smoke, then go some place where they don't allow smoking.

In any case, I recognize the fact that a lot of people don't want to drown in the "stench" of smoke, but the whole second-hand smoke kills thing is vastly blown out of proportion. You'd have to be living in second-hand smoke for it to kill you.

half_baked87

brilliant, but good luck. personal discretion is all but a thing of the past, at least here, can't do **** without offended someone, then there has to be a law made to make sure no one's feelings are hurt.

bungalow

I remember hearing this somewhere but...

What was said was

Howcome it is perfectly ok to publicly admonish people for their very unhealthy smoking habit. Even going so far as to ban smokin in public places, yet it is rude to scorn an obese person for eating too much.

I think that is hypocritical. We can verbally tell a smoker that they are ruining their life, but telling this to an obese person, we run the risk of hurting their feelings.
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Barnard17

Oh trust, I tell fatties that they're fatties

And if the person is smoking in enclosed public spaces, it's fine to admonish them due to the damage it can cause people.

Also be aware that while passive smoking takes longer to cause cancer, the cancer it causes is generally more lethal.

A pub landlord will probably not ban smoking, because the smokers would just go elsewhere losing them custom. It's important that the Government sets the standard as a requirement, to ensure that there will be smoke free places for people to enjoy.

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babakeatwix

I agree with you Fal. I believe that people shouldn't ignorantly be able to give young children the chance to second hand smoke.

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half_baked87

what are young children doing in a bar?