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MicShazam 12-05-2018 09:44 AM

Opinions on Jean-Michel Jarre?
 
I watched a Youtube video about his music on a whim and am checking out his music on Spotify right now.

It struck me that I'm not sure I've ever noticed anyone in here talking about him, despite his relative fame.

So what does MB think of Jean-Michel Jarre?




Listening to Chronology right now.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...arre_Album.jpg
https://open.spotify.com/album/4RTDlj21LMbDZD5sm4WTEW

Plankton 12-05-2018 10:02 AM

I've heard a lot of his music through other people years ago, and it's decent enough. ZooLook, Rendez Vous, and Oxygene mostly. TH was probably his biggest fan here though.

windsock 12-05-2018 10:08 AM

I own Oxygene on CD but it never struck me as anything more than weak new age. Granted, I haven't listened to it in awhile.

rostasi 12-05-2018 10:16 AM

Introduced his music to school friends in the 70s because it was an exciting time
for that type of electronic music and it was hard to contain, but lost interest in him -
like a lot of electronic musicians - by the mid 80s. Funny how you get pegged
with certain works and, after years or sometimes decades, you try to reimagine
them for the modern era. Sometimes it works (in his case, for me, yes) and
sometimes it comes off as desperation (re: Mike Oldfield).

MicShazam 12-05-2018 12:06 PM

So far, my impression is that he's got some cool sounds, but that the music also seems to have been outrun by so many of the electronic artists that have followed him.

Hearing his music, I see how his influence has no doubt hit wide and deep. And there's some surprising compositions here and there. I'm gonna need to listen to more, but "weak new age", as Windsock put it, is a little too fitting at times.

As for your comment, Rostasi, I haven't personally listened much to Oldfield albums older than the mid 80's, so I don't know what I'd think about later material. But I do really like Crises, Five Miles Out and Discovery.

rostasi 12-05-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2021742)
So far, my impression is that he's got some cool sounds, but that the music also seems to have been outrun by so many of the electronic artists that have followed him.

Hearing his music, I see how his influence has no doubt hit wide and deep. And there's some surprising compositions here and there. I'm gonna need to listen to more, but "weak new age", as Windsock put it, is a little too fitting at times.

As for your comment, Rostasi, I haven't personally listened much to Oldfield albums older than the mid 80's, so I don't know what I'd think about later material. But I do really like Crises, Five Miles Out and Discovery.

I think Jarre has a lot of his father's work in his mind and I think
"electronic orchestration" may be a result of that. It was a bit forward
thinking for the time because it raised the bar on popular electronic music by
not being either a parroting of classical instruments (which was a big thing in
the 60s) or the mostly minor key freak-outs of European space-rock performers
of the years just preceding the success of Oxygene. It was a kind of safely
textured sound that could resonate with folks who'd not usually listen to such music.

I can understand you coming from the opposite direction with Oldfield -
and those three albums you mentioned are not bad. He had a major mental
crises {pun} tho after the success of his first album(s) (and the introduction
to the world of "Virgin Records") and, I think, tried to overcome it by putting
out other versions of it that just made him look sad (except for the early one
that David Bedford arranged). To me, his music works best when he does his
long-form highly integrated pieces, but he appears to occasionally think that he's
a songster when he's often not. If he had never done anything else, the first
three albums would stand as a mighty trilogy and Amarok - done 15 years later -
could join that as a fourth solid recording in the style that he's best at doing.

Also, remember that "weak new age" is looking at things in the rear-view
mirror as "new age music," as a style, didn't exist at this time. If he could keep
from looking like a guy in his mid-60s trying for a PBS audience, he could resurrect
a large ensemble of young folks willing to take on these extended works of his -
almost like the way that Terry Riley is being "rediscovered."

OccultHawk 12-05-2018 01:14 PM

I like him a lot fwtw

MicShazam 12-05-2018 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2021753)
I think Jarre has a lot of his father's work in his mind and I think
"electronic orchestration" may be a result of that. It was a bit forward
thinking for the time because it raised the bar on popular electronic music by
not being either a parroting of classical instruments (which was a big thing in
the 60s) or the mostly minor key freak-outs of European space-rock performers
of the years just preceding the success of Oxygene. It was a kind of safely
textured sound that could resonate with folks who'd not usually listen to such music.

I can understand you coming from the opposite direction with Oldfield -
and those three albums you mentioned are not bad. He had a major mental
crises {pun} tho after the success of his first album(s) (and the introduction
to the world of "Virgin Records") and, I think, tried to overcome it by putting
out other versions of it that just made him look sad (except for the early one
that David Bedford arranged). To me, his music works best when he does his
long-form highly integrated pieces, but he appears to occasionally think that he's
a songster when he's often not. If he had never done anything else, the first
three albums would stand as a mighty trilogy and Amarok - done 15 years later -
could join that as a fourth solid recording in the style that he's best at doing.

Also, remember that "weak new age" is looking at things in the rear-view
mirror as "new age music," as a style, didn't exist at this time. If he could keep
from looking like a guy in his mid-60s trying for a PBS audience, he could resurrect
a large ensemble of young folks willing to take on these extended works of his -
almost like the way that Terry Riley is being "rediscovered."

Definitely reached a new audience that previously wasn't so into that kind of thing. I've got an uncle who's about 65. Big classic rock guy, but also a big fan of Depeche Mode and Jarre specifically on the electronic side of things.

Believe it or not, but I actually really love the best of Oldfields simple songs. To France, Crystal Gazing, Poison Arrows, Moonlight Shadow, pluse a few more. It's really mainly the Discovery album that I'm totally in love with.

My patience with his longer prog pieces varies quite a bit.




Note: And so I guess some new age should really be called watered down Jarre.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2021762)
I like him a lot fwtw

That's worth some. Got a favorite album or two?

OccultHawk 12-05-2018 02:11 PM

Oxygène is by far his best. About a year ago I went through his discography pretty carefully and didn’t run across anything else nearly that good. Oxygène is an absolute gem, however. The central theme is fantastic and what he builds around it is perfectly coherent and hypnotic. It doesn’t rest on the electronic element but instead uses it to create something that will be remembered for a long time.

MicShazam 12-05-2018 02:21 PM

His Spotify discography is incomplete to say the least, but I think I spotted Oxygène in there, so I'll prioritize that one over whatever other albums are available.

debaserr 12-05-2018 02:28 PM



Pretty much the extent of my knowledge.

vinyl collector 12-11-2018 09:53 AM

Excellent... I saw the Docklands performance in London, England 1988. Really GREAT concert!

Stephen 12-11-2018 09:28 PM

Listening to it now it seems a little sterile or dated but in context of when it came out it was interesting enough. I think Zoolookologie was probably a breakthrough album career wise for him but yeah Oxygene was probably his best.

Edit: oh sorry Zoolook was the name of the album.

rostasi 12-11-2018 10:07 PM

Actually, Oxygène was an incredible hit for Jarre - mostly in France, Germany and the UK: less so in the US.
Critics hated it, but the public bought it and asked to hear it on the radio and it eventually sold in the tens of millions of copies.

The idea for it came from the cover painting by Michel Granger with Jarre's girlfriend (and, later wife) -
the famous actress Charlotte Rampling - buying it and giving it to Jarre.

Also, there's a nod to Gershon Kingsley's "Popcorn" in the melody to "...Part IV."

"Zoolook" was a kind of pale attempt at trying for a hit by having people like Laurie Anderson,
Adrian Belew and Marcus Miller on it. The critics (and fans) weren't all that impressed.

Moonbow 02-22-2019 05:52 PM

Jean-Michel Jarre is one of my favorite electronic artists. Best albums: Zoolook, Oxygène, Équinoxe, Rendez-vous, Chronologie, Les chants magnétiques. Also the long ambient track Waiting for Cousteau is pretty good.

Zhanteimi 02-23-2019 12:52 AM

I own and enjoy Oxygène and Equinoxe.

Fantomas72 08-18-2020 01:19 PM

I own almost all remasterded CD 's from Jean-Michel Jarre , i think his music is timeless..!
Oxygène sold over 18 milion copies , Jarre’s pioneering work gave birth to a veritable cult and the fastest-growing trend the music industry has ever stood to witness: the rise of electronic music.
Jarre, a three time Guinness World Record holder for largest outdoor performances, was always keen to present his music in one-off events and turning them into unforgettable experiences for those present.
J.M.J was also the first to release an entire album in 5.1. Sound and the first artist to use 3D audio technology for music.


Windswept Canyon by Jean Michel Jarre (1972) from his first (official) LP '' Deserted Place '' 1973






the_great_fox 12-06-2020 07:51 PM

The guy that got me hooked into Electronic music, even had the pleasure of meeting him in Birmingham on his last tour.
For me Equinox was far better than Oxygene, Zoolook if I recal on the album notes had something like 100+ languages sampled in the album, Ethnicolour was the best track on this album.
I remember when Chronology was released I was a little disappointed until I listened to it later in life and it is pretty good one of his latest Oxygen 17 is very good and the video is pretty awesome (I am a die hard Mike Oldfield fan - Amarok is one of the best songs ever:) )


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