Will Going Mainstream Make Dub Step Lame?

Sneer · 09-30-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I thought dub step was already lame?

There are some great dubstep artists out there, you should listen to a few.

Such as this guy:

Wait until it drops around 2.20.

or this...

As for dubstep going to shit with its transition into the mainstream, it happens with every genre. The original format is progressively diluted to appeal to as wide an audience as possible.

SATCHMO · 10-10-2011, 02:23 PM

Music trends like this all the time. How you respond to it is really the only control you have.

For example, about 6 years ago I thought I was gonna vomit if I heard one more snippet of a DnB/jungle beat. For my ears the genre had just become to played out for me to wanna listen to it anymore, so I didn't. Now that the novelty of dubstep is wearing thin I find myself listening to it less, but like Jackhammer pointed out, there's still a lot of innovation going on in the genre by artists who aren't trying to exploit it's popularity, so lately I'm just digging for originality a little harder and dusting off some of my favorite jungle beats that I can finally bear to listen to again. It's only music, well, not only, but what you choose to listen to is up to you.

Engine · 10-10-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Because every freaking music store I walk into is playing it, there's a million dub step compilation albums out and it's seeping into the top 40. I think it's going to ruin it when everyone likes it because it's the cool thing to do. It's drum and bass all over again. I really prefer decent music to be heard by people with actual music tastes.

Thoughts?

I think I don't care at all about what's played in common record stores and on the Top 40. None of that can ruin music that is good.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Uh... "make" dub step lame. If you ask me giving simplistic dance music a different name, and pretending it's some vastly original amazing new trend is lamer than anything. So rather than making dubstep lame it'll probably actually just make mainstream lamer.

Close-minded insults don't make for good conversation. Good dubstep is good. Great dubstep is even better. If you're interested in Art and Music then you know that 'originality' ultimately means little and that honest music fans give no shit about trends.

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I thought dub step was already lame?

Wrong.

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Originally Posted by Stu

There are some great dubstep artists out there, you should listen to a few.

Such as this guy:

Wait until it drops around 2.20.

Excellent example. I'll always love Boxcutter's Glyphic album (2007) no matter what any other musician does. It'll never be lame.

acidxshane · 10-10-2011, 07:53 PM

The only reason anyone should fear a wave of mainstream dubstep is the same reason anyone would fear a wave of any genre/subgenre, and that is the relative spike in sheep who follow the trends dictated to them via mainstream devices. This inevitably leads to a shift in the music itself if it does not change with the generation. Rock n roll used to be cool and rebellious. Now we have Nickelback.

**Janszoon** · 10-10-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

Excellent example. I'll always love Boxcutter's Glyphic album (2007) no matter what any other musician does. It'll never be lame.

The only Boxcutter album I have is Oneric, but I'm a pretty big fan of it.

Engine · 10-10-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

The only Boxcutter album I have is Oneric, but I'm a pretty big fan of it.

I have that one but haven't listened to it for a long time. If memory serves, it doesn't grab me like Glyphic does. I'm gonna dig it up though, now that you brought it up.

Dubstep303 · 10-20-2011, 05:12 PM

No, it will only make more variety for the genre. Some people will complain as it evolves but the old style artists will always be there and you can ignore the new ones if you don't like them.

Adobe · 10-26-2011, 10:52 AM

Give them what they want. You can show off on your album.

Zil · 04-26-2013, 11:48 PM

I think part of the problem with any electronic genre going mainstream is that a lot of people have production capabilities available, and then will all try making it and emulating everything that was done before. Then it all starts sounding the same and boring and there's just so much more to have to sift through to try and find the really cool tracks. There will always be good artists in the genre pioneering their craziness, but they will get harder to find.

ThePhanastasio · 04-26-2013, 11:50 PM

Underground dubstep was fantastic. Major producers capitalizing on the phenomenon does diminish the quality somewhat. There's still good dubstep to be found, but when your average person says they're a fan of dubstep, they're talking ****ing Skrillex or something.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Music trends like this all the time. How you respond to it is really the only control you have. For example, about 6 years ago I thought I was gonna vomit if I heard one more snippet of a DnB/jungle beat. For my ears the genre had just become to played out for me to wanna listen to it anymore, so I didn't. Now that the novelty of dubstep is wearing thin I find myself listening to it less, but like Jackhammer pointed out, there's still a lot of innovation going on in the genre by artists who aren't trying to exploit it's popularity, so lately I'm just digging for originality a little harder and dusting off some of my favorite jungle beats that I can finally bear to listen to again. It's only music, well, not only, but what you choose to listen to is up to you.

10-10-2011, 07:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
acidxshane Groupie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Madison Posts: 1	The only reason anyone should fear a wave of mainstream dubstep is the same reason anyone would fear a wave of any genre/subgenre, and that is the relative spike in sheep who follow the trends dictated to them via mainstream devices. This inevitably leads to a shift in the music itself if it does not change with the generation. Rock n roll used to be cool and rebellious. Now we have Nickelback.

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Dubstep303 Groupie Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3	No, it will only make more variety for the genre. Some people will complain as it evolves but the old style artists will always be there and you can ignore the new ones if you don't like them.

04-26-2013, 11:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
Zil Groupie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 12	I think part of the problem with any electronic genre going mainstream is that a lot of people have production capabilities available, and then will all try making it and emulating everything that was done before. Then it all starts sounding the same and boring and there's just so much more to have to sift through to try and find the really cool tracks. There will always be good artists in the genre pioneering their craziness, but they will get harder to find.