The Official OFWGKTA thread

Sparky · 04-02-2013, 12:08 AM

have you listened to it yet, surrell?

Surell · 04-02-2013, 12:21 AM

No i'm waiting to buy like in olden days. Even though Domo23 wasn't his best, I think his style was still on point and Bimmer was hawwwt

Sparky · 04-02-2013, 12:51 AM

post what you think when you get it. It has some good songs it's just feels a little predictable. The same topics are still being recycled, his lack of father, his choice to not smoke weed, his inhaler. I do think it has the strongest production of the 3 releases.

Some of it sounds too contrived "grab a couple friends, start a couple riots, crash a couple *#$#* stomp some bullies." It's kinda cute stuff but I yearn for the old odd future like what was going on in the first earl music video, I miss that edge.

Surell · 04-02-2013, 12:58 AM

I'd heard he was gonna put his favorite production thus far on this album. He does reuse topics, I can't refute that, but a lot of my favorite rappers have their safety zones in a sense, so for me as long as it sounds like they're coming up with newer ways to put them out there I can usually stay behind it. Some of Wayne's newer stuff, even though he's even admitted his disinterest in rap recently, just gets me in how nonchalant or off the cuff it seems.

All the same, I'm looking forward to it. He didn't sound too excited, maybe it's his own expectations or the backlash he's gotten, I dunno. I'm just hoping it's a nice closer for the trilogy. I also look forward to what comes next since this series of albums is at its end; maybe he'll come out anew, or not. His career still thrills me and, as a fanboy, I still think he's one of the more unique forces in Hip Hop right now, with a lot of OF, even if I granted that he were a one-trick pony (which I wouldn't, at least not entirely).

Sparky · 04-02-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell

. He does reuse topics, I can't refute that, but a lot of my favorite rappers have their safety zones in a sense, so for me as long as it sounds like they're coming up with newer ways to put them out there I can usually stay behind it.

See that's my main issue, he's not really saying the stuff in novel ways. It would certainly be a double standard to criticize him for reusing topics, but he does it enough where it's immediately noticeable, he's more explicit with it while other rappers usually wrap more original wordplay to convey the same topics. It's not as interesting to listen to.

Surell · 04-02-2013, 01:19 AM

I can see that. If it does sound too similar to the past two albums and his mixtape material, I will probably have to dock points or give him demerits or something. But Tyler's style always kept even his Lil Wayne defacation pun satires (which he utilizes quite often) fresh for me, and lines like "dope as fuck/ so i would really shoot a group of guys up" (Goblin bonus track) always really got me. Maybe not the best but i thought it was pretty slick

Sparky · 04-02-2013, 01:21 AM

he has a lyric that goes "shit was doper then whitney houstons knees" i lol'd.

I still think he's witty, this record just seems complacent. I hold him to a higher standard but perhaps it's unfair.

Surell · 04-02-2013, 01:30 AM

I don't think it is at all. I'd say that's a great complement to his skill, even though you don't think it lives up to that. I may find the same outcome. My main problem with Goblin was that he almost became too ambitious, and stretched his concept about beyond its means. That doesn't disregard the fact that I think it takes a lot of talent and wit to even come close to executing it, and he's one of the very few rappers even today who really can. Even if he didn't have a storyline, just hearing how the OF 2 tape moves, so smoothly and with its own arc, is really neat.

btw is that line implying her ashiness was actually cocaine?

Sparky · 04-02-2013, 02:02 AM

I don't know dog. I think your giving him a lot of false praise. I really can't fathom describing the new record as "ambitious". I mean kool keith already did every sound tylers done and that was 2 decades ago, and it still sounds very similar.

Surell · 04-02-2013, 02:08 AM

Yeah I'm not so familiar with Keith. But I was referring more directly to Goblin as ambitious. Even though Keith did it (but its like what the hell hasn't he done), how many people really try to make Hip Hop with edge or concept like that? There's Shabazz, of course, in a different realm though. That's about all i can think of. But maybe I've been too out of the loop on recent rap.

04-02-2013, 12:08 AM	#921 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	have you listened to it yet, surrell?

04-02-2013, 12:51 AM	#923 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	post what you think when you get it. It has some good songs it's just feels a little predictable. The same topics are still being recycled, his lack of father, his choice to not smoke weed, his inhaler. I do think it has the strongest production of the 3 releases. Some of it sounds too contrived "grab a couple friends, start a couple riots, crash a couple #$# stomp some bullies." It's kinda cute stuff but I yearn for the old odd future like what was going on in the first earl music video, I miss that edge.

04-02-2013, 01:21 AM	#927 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	he has a lyric that goes "shit was doper then whitney houstons knees" i lol'd. I still think he's witty, this record just seems complacent. I hold him to a higher standard but perhaps it's unfair.

04-02-2013, 02:02 AM	#929 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I don't know dog. I think your giving him a lot of false praise. I really can't fathom describing the new record as "ambitious". I mean kool keith already did every sound tylers done and that was 2 decades ago, and it still sounds very similar.