Originally Posted by Ki

Before you guys jump all over me, this thread has had a history of stirring **** up, and mods took to it and deleted the drama. Having mods create drama that they have been said to delete in the past seems counter productive. You tell regular members to take these issues to PM, you guys should do the same.

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

I'm saying that this thread should not result in drawn-out arguments. Those should be taken to PMs. If I'd seen this ****storm in the new posts when I signed up, I can guarantee I wouldn't have been coming back to post.