Originally Posted by Goofle

I definitely wouldn't have skipped past that title if I saw it. Shame

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Well it probably flew under your radar cause of the title.
http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...-bastards.html

Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

I'm voting no. There is no reason for us to go independent. Likely it will mean we switch to the euro (if we're able to stay in the EU at all) which will devalue our already weakening currency. Taxation will undoubtedly rise as we will have to fund our own health service, education, public servants, military, etc.
As for reasons to go independent, the only two reasons I can see are a foolish sense of patriotism and more control over the revenue for oil - a finite resource, one which we will run dry 30 years from now.
Also the thought of having Alex Salmond as President, which I am sure would be his job title as he would be our head of state is frightening.

Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

I can't see any reason why
- having our own government (that we actually voted for)
-representatives in parliament that were actually able to serve the needs of their constituents
-the ability to make our own international relations
-not deploying troops to fight in illegal invasions
-having complete control over our highly valuable natural resources
-having 100% of taxpayers money spent on Scottish people and society
-creating a fairer and more equal society
-raising the national minimum wage
-the ability to have not devolved, but complete course and direction over the governing and management of our own people
-not paying for high speed railines or a Royal Family that do nothing for us, one because they're not being constructed in our country, the other because they do literally nothing and the concept of a Monarchy is ludicrous in a supposed 21st Century democracy

would make us weaker.

Any 'No' vote is a waste of the best opportunity we've ever had for creating better lives for ourselves as a nation. Imagine being the only country in the world dumb enough to vote against their own freedom. The final shackles of the British Empire need to be broken.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

The ****? What happened in a year to make Manky pull a one-eighty?

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ah, the fickle minds of the young.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

The ****? What happened in a year to make Manky pull a one-eighty?

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Maybe the chlamydia is affecting his brain.

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

The ****? What happened in a year to make Manky pull a one-eighty?

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I see you're recycling butthead's jokes

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

The ****? What happened in a year to make Manky pull a one-eighty?