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Old 05-27-2008, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Constantly smoking pot for years on end counts as substance abuse, in my world.
okay if you want to live in that ingnorant world (ie pot smoking decreases your intelligence) thats fine. Pink Floyd did enjoy the odd smoke but they were hardly smoking all the time. You are getting their fans mixed up with the band.

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And yet, if they had an iota of intelligence they would sort out their problems and stay together even just 'cause it makes more business sense. Sorry but whatever way you look at it, a bad break-up usually implies a bunch of braindead morons.
Okay, the beatles, The Dead Kennedys, Husker Du, The Pixies, Janes Addiction there are many bands that break-up on bad terms, it does not make them stupid. Being in a band and hanging with the same people all the time for years can be a strain on good relationships especially when collaborating artistically. The more I think about what you are saying the more I am thinking you are either young, stupid yourself or just being a troll.
If you have anything else to say on the matter please explain how "a bad break-up usually implies a bunch of braindead morons".

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That depends upon who you are. If you're Roger Walters, it sure as hell does!
Roger is a creative genius you goose! If the only evidence that you have to the contrary is that he smoked pot all the time (lie) and that he has a big ego stfu.

Re: the wall, I agree with a lot that you say, however I think you are being a little hard on the album. Whilst not on par with their other 70's albums I do think it is a better album than some of their 60's releases (atom heart mother, saucerful, more, and ummagumma)

Re: Final cut, great review, great underrated album. I would add "southhampton dock/The final cut" to the 2 songs you mentioned as highlights of the album.
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Old 05-28-2008, 03:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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okay if you want to live in that ingnorant world (ie pot smoking decreases your intelligence) thats fine. Pink Floyd did enjoy the odd smoke but they were hardly smoking all the time. You are getting their fans mixed up with the band.
It turns you into a dopey, lethargic, lazy, unambitious fool. It also does have a negative effect on memory and anybody who claims anything to the contrary is a plain liar and just making excuses for their own lazy, lousy lifestyle. Alcohol abuse has even worse consequences.

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Okay, the beatles, The Dead Kennedys, Husker Du, The Pixies, Janes Addiction there are many bands that break-up on bad terms, it does not make them stupid.
Not being able to put your egos aside and sort out your problems like civilized human beings DOES make one stupid and an idiot, and I find it hilarious that anybody is able to claim anything to the contrary.

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If you have anything else to say on the matter please explain how "a bad break-up usually implies a bunch of braindead morons".
See above. Mature adults ought to be able to sort out their problems in a civil manner. It's below childish to fail in this regard, since even kids rarely hold grudges for more than a short period of time.

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Roger is a creative genius you goose!
He is a creative genius. There was no disputing that. You can be a creative genius and be braindead in other ways.

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If the only evidence that you have to the contrary is that ... he has a big ego stfu.
Problem is, a big ego is very often a sign of a low intellect. Somebody with greater mental acumen would not think so abnormally highly of themselves.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It turns you into a dopey, lethargic, lazy, unambitious fool. It also does have a negative effect on memory and anybody who claims anything to the contrary is a plain liar and just making excuses for their own lazy, lousy lifestyle. Alcohol abuse has even worse consequences.
Thats just a blanket statement that is only true a fraction of the time.

But otherwise, very nice reviews on The Wall (think you could have given it a little more credit, i do not feel its nearly as bloated) and Final Cut.

I look forward to more.
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