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killedmyraindog
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Actually? or did I miss it posted somewhere else?
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Can I be honest? I also think inherently men are going to look up to the idea of having a Haram of 20 bitches and a Bugatti. It's like the pinnacle of success in the society we live in. Or rather having the ability to if you wanted to.
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It should be focused more on confidence, ambition, self-care, honor, integrity, and discipline. Less of a focus on materialism/sex and more of a focus on character and developing your potential and talent to its fullest. I know a fair amount of dudes - friends of mine - who haven't even sorted out their **** yet. Still living with their parents, chose ****ty college majors (this is perhaps substance for a different discussion), have to pay back a lot of money etc. Before you worry about the fancy car and women, you gotta handle your business. In my experience, women aren't typically into dudes that they have to mother. |
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When I got into him the whole bootstraps message was the first time I ever entertained the idea of self help **** and it's not even that he had specific advice that was useful but that general mentality of trying to take control is what felt more useful.
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Do you read the stoics at all?
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Marcus Aurelius's Meditations should be required reading in school. Young men would get more pragmatic advice from that than they ever would watching Andrew Tate.
Concentrate every minute like a Roman— like a man— on doing what’s in front of you with precise and genuine seriousness, tenderly, willingly, with justice. And on freeing yourself from all other distractions. Yes, you can— if you do everything as if it were the last thing you were doing in your life, and stop being aimless, stop letting your emotions override what your mind tells you, stop being hypocritical, self-centered , irritable. You see how few things you have to do to live a satisfying and reverent life? If you can manage this, that’s all even the gods can ask of you. |
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That's why I said the last line. The ability is the key, not the specific goal. You can ridicule the aesthetic itself as superficial or childish but ultimately it's just a clear and grotesque display of being at the top of the sort of "dominance heirarchy" Peterson preaches about. The entire point is distinguishing yourself from the vast hoards of other men through one or another type of high status.
I think in part the obsession with things like women and materialism is because it's an obsession with tangible results. Said results provide a clear-cut motivation and also a way to track whether you are actually making any progress. |
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Because after all this time you're still stumping for obvious grifters and sociopaths just to own the libs out of spite. What debate are we even having? You know these people serve no function and have no value, you just don't care.
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